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Title: Preparing Swarm for Natural Cell Size
Post by: Pond Creek Farm on March 09, 2008, 10:03:35 PM
I am fishing for swarms this spring.  I may not catch anything, but the fishing will be fun nonetheless.  I am interested in learning how to condition a swarm for natural swarm size.  I have learned (I think) that it may be a false assumption to assume that feral bees that I might catch are already regressed.  So how do I do it?  Should the body I put out be filled with foundationless frames or starter stips?  If strips, should there be any impression?  Thoughts?
Title: Re: Preparing Swarm for Natural Cell Size
Post by: Robo on March 09, 2008, 10:09:12 PM
Quote from: Pond Creek Farm on March 09, 2008, 10:03:35 PM
I have learned (I think) that it may be a false assumption to assume that feral bees that I might catch are already regressed.
Correct, they could be a swarm from a large cell hive.

QuoteSo how do I do it?
Same way as you regress non-ferals

QuoteShould the body I put out be filled with foundationless frames or starter stips?
That is one method,  HSC is another quicker option

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If strips, should there be any impression?  Thoughts?
Doesn't matter,  they will not follow the pattern anyway.  They will build whatever size they want below the starter strip.
Title: Re: Preparing Swarm for Natural Cell Size
Post by: Pond Creek Farm on March 09, 2008, 10:13:10 PM
I am sorry to be thick, but what does "HSC" mean?
Title: Re: Preparing Swarm for Natural Cell Size
Post by: buzzbee on March 09, 2008, 10:16:11 PM
I believe its "Honey Super Cell"Manufactured small cell
Title: Re: Preparing Swarm for Natural Cell Size
Post by: Robo on March 10, 2008, 10:01:29 AM
http://www.honeysupercell.com
Title: Re: Preparing Swarm for Natural Cell Size
Post by: Michael Bush on March 10, 2008, 11:21:28 PM
For a bait hive, I'd just put poscicle sticks in the groove of the top bar and use some swarm lure.

http://www.bushfarms.com/beesferal.htm#baithives
Title: Re: Preparing Swarm for Natural Cell Size
Post by: tillie on March 10, 2008, 11:25:43 PM
A Greek beekeeper wrote me that I should mix the lemongrass oil with some beeswax and olive oil to make a mixture that will last a little longer than the lemongrass oil alone.  I've got it on my empty hive - on the frames, on the entrance and around the inner cover.  We'll see what happens.

Here's the mix
(http://beekeeperlinda.blogspot.com/2008/02/spring-is-coming-invitation-to-swarm.html)

Linda T eagerly hopeful in Atlanta