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Title: Pesticide labels
Post by: tillie on April 21, 2008, 04:58:57 PM
I'm going to Young Harris this year to try for the Journeyman level - I passed Certified last year - on the way to Master Beekeeper which I'll probably never get...only 3 out of 21 passed last year for Journeyman, so I am thinking I'm taking the test/course for experience for next year.

Here's a quote from the website about the practical test for Journeyman:
"The practical test includes: Scoring a jar of show honey; reading pesticide labels and determining which is the safest to use around bees; identifying several beekeeping items; examining a honey label for errors; distinguishing between bees, wasps, hornets, etc.; and identifying anatomical structures of a bee and a flower."

I think I'll be able to find and understand all of those things except
Quotereading pesticide labels and determining which is the safest to use around bees
Since I don't use pesticides, don't plan to in my yard or on my bees, I feel somewhat at a loss here.  My first thought is anything organic - like spraying red pepper in water on tomato plants, but what else would be "safe"

I googled "safe pesticides to use around bees" and found this article (http://www.beesfordevelopment.org/info/info/pesticides/natural-pesticide-impairs.shtml)
and this (http://www.beesfordevelopment.org/info/info/pesticides/bees-pesticides.shtml) - both apparently in Denmark.

In my mind NO pesticide is "safest to use around bees."  Where in the world would I find the information about what pesticide would be safe to use around bees? 

Linda T in Atlanta
Title: Re: Pesticide labels
Post by: Kathyp on April 21, 2008, 05:59:29 PM
http://www1.agric.gov.ab.ca/$Department/deptdocs.nsf/all/agdex704

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pesticide_toxicity_to_bees

http://cru.cahe.wsu.edu/CEPublications/pnw0518/pnw0518.pdf

i found some stuff.  they want you to be able to read a lable and see if the product is safe?  the second article from wikipedia might be the best info.
Title: Re: Pesticide labels
Post by: tillie on April 21, 2008, 09:43:37 PM
Wow!  Kathyp - you are a wonder.  I found articles but nothing like the wiki article - should have searched pesticide toxicity to bees, I guess.  You're amazing - I have no heart for learning this list, but I'll bet that's how the three people passed last year!

Thanks,
Linda T in Atlanta heading for Young Harris in a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Pesticide labels
Post by: rdy-b on April 21, 2008, 09:52:28 PM
This may help -if you know nothing else -pesticide labels come in three different levels of strength-they are rated at DANGER-WARNING -CAUTION- CAUTION being the least toxic-could be a good first clue for the test - ;) RDY-B                                                                                                                                                                                         http://tncweeds.ucdavis.edu/products/handbook/24.PesticideLabel.pdf
Title: Re: Pesticide labels
Post by: Kathyp on April 21, 2008, 09:54:39 PM
no big deal.  info gathering is what i do  :-).

there are more sites and lists.  didn't want to flood you.  if you need more info, let me know.
Title: Re: Pesticide labels
Post by: tillie on April 21, 2008, 10:16:30 PM
RDY-B  :-D :-D :-D :-D

Gee, that's helpful - Danger, Warning, Caution - who would've thunk?

LT LOL in Atlanta
Title: Re: Pesticide labels
Post by: annette on April 21, 2008, 10:44:05 PM
Good Luck Linda with the test. I am proud of you and I know you will do very well.

Annette
Title: Re: Pesticide labels
Post by: rdy-b on April 21, 2008, 11:06:39 PM
Quote from: tillie on April 21, 2008, 10:16:30 PM
RDY-B  :-D :-D :-D :-D

Gee, that's helpful - Danger, Warning, Caution - who would've thunk?

LT LOL in Atlanta
yea thats what they teach you to pass a QAC test in cali :-D :lol: 8-) RDY-B
Title: Re: Pesticide labels
Post by: rdy-b on April 21, 2008, 11:20:52 PM
Heres a tip that not many people know -when scoring a jar of show honey -if the honey touches the lid-and the lid has honey on it -it is grounds for disqualification - ;) RDY-B
Title: Re: Pesticide labels
Post by: rdy-b on April 22, 2008, 12:38:00 AM
Quote from: tillie on April 21, 2008, 10:16:30 PM
RDY-B  :-D :-D :-D :-D

Gee, that's helpful - Danger, Warning, Caution - who would've thunk?

LT LOL in Atlanta
http://tncweeds.ucdavis.edu/products/handbook/24.PesticideLabel.pdf                   
Title: Re: Pesticide labels
Post by: tillie on April 22, 2008, 12:48:07 AM
Thank you, RDY-B - maybe I'll pass this part of the test after all  :roll:

I truly am not very hopeful.  I was quite discouraged last year to find out that only 3 of the 21 or so people who took the Journeyman test last year actually passed.....grim.

but this article on how to read a pesticide label is truly helpful.  Thanks - funny guy.

Linda T in Atlanta
Title: Re: Pesticide labels
Post by: Cindi on April 22, 2008, 10:29:00 AM
Linda, you underestimate yourself.  YOu are a teacher and a learner, I know that you will come through this with flying colours, you very obviously are very skilled in these two arenas.  Yeah!!!  So good that you are on that search for knowledge.  I wish I had more time to take more courses, but do not have that luxury (or should I rephrase, I would if I made time to make time, me bad). 

So Linda, go to your course, do the best you can, go with that positive mind that you do have, and you will fly, like the birds on the wing.  Beautiful and most wonderful day, Cindi
Title: Re: Pesticide labels
Post by: DayValleyDahlias on April 22, 2008, 10:40:28 AM
Oh Linda,

See yourself as Master Beek...Yes you can!~