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Title: gluing starter strips
Post by: octagon on June 05, 2008, 09:21:20 AM
i have some pierco plastic foundation that has been cut in strips about 1 and a half inches wide that i would like to use in a brood hive, could i use some bees wax melted to glue them in the grove. the frames are made to hold a whole foundation but i got the stuf from other people for nothing and would like to use it.thanks.
Title: Re: gluing starter strips
Post by: Cindi on June 05, 2008, 09:28:25 AM
Octagon, go our our forum member's blog, that is Linda.  She has a video on how to glue foundation with beewax, it is a very cool blog, you should check it out!!!  Have that beautiful and most wonderful day, good luck.  Cindi

http://beekeeperlinda.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: gluing starter strips
Post by: JP on June 05, 2008, 10:28:08 AM
Quote from: Cindi on June 05, 2008, 09:28:25 AM
Octagon, go our our forum member's blog, that is Linda.  She has a video on how to glue foundation with beewax, it is a very cool blog, you should check it out!!!  Have that beautiful and most wonderful day, good luck.  Cindi

http://beekeeperlinda.blogspot.com/

Here's the direct link to Linda's video on securing starter strips with wax: http://beekeeperlinda.blogspot.com/2007/04/how-to-use-wax-tube-fastener_26.html

BTW, you can also glue them in or shoot a few brads through the starter strips at an angle into the frame, this is what I do.


...JP
Title: Re: gluing starter strips
Post by: Robo on June 05, 2008, 12:16:22 PM
I'm with JP.  I shoot a staple thru the side of the top bar and into the strip with an air stapler.   It doesn't work with wax starter strips, but works fine with plastic foundation or coroplast (which I use).  Much quicker and less of a mess.


rob....

Title: Re: gluing starter strips
Post by: octagon on June 05, 2008, 01:00:47 PM
would it be ok to use a couple frames with strips and the rest full plastic foundation?ths
Title: Re: gluing starter strips
Post by: suprstakr on June 05, 2008, 01:21:30 PM
YES!! Alternate strips whith foundation for nicer natural comb ..
Title: Re: gluing starter strips
Post by: Keith13 on June 05, 2008, 01:26:14 PM
Can you use Gorille glue inside the box without harming the bees. Or would you suggest using another type of glue maybe Elmers  it wouldnt need to hold much weight until the bees join the comb to the frames I used to eat Elmers as a kid with out to much damage
Title: Re: gluing starter strips
Post by: Brian D. Bray on June 05, 2008, 11:34:17 PM
Quote from: keith13 on June 05, 2008, 01:26:14 PM
Can you use Gorille glue inside the box without harming the bees. Or would you suggest using another type of glue maybe Elmers  it wouldnt need to hold much weight until the bees join the comb to the frames I used to eat Elmers as a kid with out to much damage

I've found that Gorilla glue foams too much which can scew up the works when drawing comb.  For frames and especially gluing starter strips nothing beats good old Elmer's Glueall. 
Title: Re: gluing starter strips
Post by: Kathyp on June 06, 2008, 01:00:53 AM
hot glue gun?  i am a big fan of gorilla glue, but not on the starter strips.  brian is right, it will foam to much.
Title: Re: gluing starter strips
Post by: JordanM on June 06, 2008, 09:17:19 AM
I used wood glue and it worked perfect.
Title: Re: gluing starter strips
Post by: bassman1977 on June 06, 2008, 09:42:03 AM
I use gorilla glue with no problem.  Just use in moderation.  A few drops does wonders.  I use it for every piece of the hive that requires glue.
Title: Re: gluing starter strips
Post by: JP on June 06, 2008, 08:30:18 PM
Quote from: bassman1977 on June 06, 2008, 09:42:03 AM
I use gorilla glue with no problem.  Just use in moderation.  A few drops does wonders.  I use it for every piece of the hive that requires glue.

This seems to be the case with any application involving Gorilla glue. A little goes a LONG way.


...JP
Title: Re: gluing starter strips
Post by: Pond Creek Farm on June 07, 2008, 12:32:18 AM
I have tons of plastic foundation (from Mann Lake kits), and it is sittingn in my barn.  I have been cutting and gluing in wax foundation for my supers.  Do you all think I would be better off to cut the plastic foundation with a band saw and staple it into place?  If I could do it once and avoid the melthing and welding with beeswax. that might be a bit easier. 
Title: Re: gluing starter strips
Post by: JP on June 07, 2008, 12:43:14 AM
Quote from: Pond Creek Farm on June 07, 2008, 12:32:18 AM
I have tons of plastic foundation (from Mann Lake kits), and it is sittingn in my barn.  I have been cutting and gluing in wax foundation for my supers.  Do you all think I would be better off to cut the plastic foundation with a band saw and staple it into place?  If I could do it once and avoid the melthing and welding with beeswax. that might be a bit easier. 

This is what I do.


...JP