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Title: shopping for extractor
Post by: Paul H on July 14, 2008, 12:17:37 AM
I'd like to look into buying an extractor, but don't know what to look for.  I have one hive this year, a will start a second (maybe third) next year, but no more than that.  Looking for quality built, not a lot of bells and whistles, but one that will last for ...a lifetime?   

Can anyone help?   
Title: Re: shopping for extractor
Post by: Ross on July 14, 2008, 10:09:12 AM
Most of the extractors are fine, but for one hive I could not recommend one.  For five hives I still wouldn't recommend one.  After you get past 10 hives you could start thinking about one, but I still wouldn't pay new prices if I could help it.  It takes a long time to make that much honey with a few hives.  I would stick with cut comb or crush and strain for a while.
Title: Re: shopping for extractor
Post by: BearCreekBees on July 14, 2008, 10:25:44 AM
If I only had a handful of hives I would check with the local beekeepers association to see if they had one available for members' use. If not, I would check around with other beekeepers to see if anyone in the area had a small one they would rent out for a small fee.

Crushing and straining is a pain in the neck, for me, so I would not go that route. I would buy a small 2, 3, or 4 frame manual extractor from either Dadant or Kelley. Or, if you have the $$$ to spend, go ahead and get the electric model. Either should last a lifetime, maybe more than one lifetime. I have 3 Kelley extractors now and they are really solid, high quality extractors. All were purchased used, and I expect that my grandkids could still be using them 50 years from now. IF I had grandkids, which I don't, lol. But, SOMEBODY'S grandkids will be using them.

Buy a used extractor if you can find one, as long as it has been well cared for- you should expect to pay about 1/2 the cost of a new one.
I bought an electric 3 frame tangenital extractor, used, and it has proven to be a real workhorse- we have extracted over 80 medium supers at a time with that one- takes awhile, but it does a great job. I think that one is a Maxant- another good manufacturer if you can find them.
Title: Re: shopping for extractor
Post by: lovelyembalmer on July 14, 2008, 11:30:19 AM
 Even if you get a manuel one, you can make it work with a drill.  Our is a four (small) rack extractor or two brood box size. Our gears went out last week extracting four supers and we took the gears off and chucked a drill to the bar and spun the honey out with no problem.
Title: Re: shopping for extractor
Post by: Moonshae on July 14, 2008, 03:19:50 PM
Brushy Mtn usually has a free shipping deal at the end of the year...consider going there for your extractor...they're heavy and bulky, so the shipping adds up quickly.
Title: Re: shopping for extractor
Post by: BeeHopper on July 14, 2008, 04:18:22 PM
Quote from: Paul H on July 14, 2008, 12:17:37 AM
I'd like to look into buying an extractor, but don't know what to look for.  I have one hive this year, a will start a second (maybe third) next year, but no more than that.  Looking for quality built, not a lot of bells and whistles, but one that will last for ...a lifetime?   

Can anyone help?   

NY is a huge Beekeeping state, Check with your Ag Extention office for a list of BeeKeeping Clubs nearest you, many of which have equipment for members to share, it is very beneficial to join one.  :-D
Title: Re: shopping for extractor
Post by: indypartridge on July 16, 2008, 08:14:33 AM
Quote from: BeeHopper on July 14, 2008, 04:18:22 PM
NY is a huge Beekeeping state, Check with your Ag Extention office for a list of BeeKeeping Clubs nearest you, many of which have equipment for members to share, it is very beneficial to join one.  :-D
I'll second what BeeHopper said. There are SO many advantages to getting connected with other local beeks. Just in recent weeks I have borrowed an extractor; hauled nucs across the state for a fellow beek; got a replacement queen; referred a swarm call to another beek; given a 4-H beekeeping demonstration; etc., all because of "connections". 

New York clubs:
http://www.masterbeekeeper.org/resources/beegroups.htm
Title: Re: shopping for extractor
Post by: Kathyp on July 16, 2008, 07:11:49 PM
try craigs list.  i got mine as part of a bulk buy.  i agree with the others, though.  no need for one if you only have a few hives.
Title: Re: shopping for extractor
Post by: johnnybigfish on July 16, 2008, 10:23:03 PM
 Mannn,...I couldnt believe how expensive extractors have gotten in the last few months :shock:
Unless I saw the information on pricing wrong,(which is totally possible the more i think of it) in a new catalog I recently got from kelleys, one like mine was about 700$!! Mines a four frame hand crank and I last saw it running for about 350$..I got mine used for 50$ last spring. I was extremely lucky.
I wouldnt get the plastic type if I were you. In my opinion they cost way too much for what theyre built from..I would think they would be easy to break too.
At first, the extractor was fun :-D.....Then it turned into work...But not as much work as Crush and Strain I bet.(I've only used the extractor to get honey).

your friend,
john
Title: Re: shopping for extractor
Post by: Paul H on July 18, 2008, 12:30:57 AM
The Compact Deluxe, though affordably priced and  having nice features, looks like it may not be the highest quality machine on the market.

The Maxant 3100 looks to be a much better machine,  but for a much higher price.

The machines coming from Dadant have the lightest gage steel, but are midrange on the price ,IIRC .

What other extractors are there? 

What features do you like/dislike about your extractor?
Title: Re: shopping for extractor
Post by: xC0000005 on July 18, 2008, 04:45:43 AM
Quote from: Paul H on July 14, 2008, 12:17:37 AM
I'd like to look into buying an extractor, but don't know what to look for.  I have one hive this year, a will start a second (maybe third) next year, but no more than that.  Looking for quality built, not a lot of bells and whistles, but one that will last for ...a lifetime?   

Can anyone help?   

Borrow from a friend.
Rent from an association
Build.  Build your own honey extractor. (http://www.voiceofthehive.com/VotH/15_1_Voice_of_the_Hive-Roll_Your_own_Extractor.htm)  Seriously, I feel like a broken record at this time of year as I say over and over and over - build it if you can.  It doesn't do deep frames but that's a cheap trade off for me.  Then again, you can do whatever you want but extractors are really expensive. 
Buy.  Only if the other options don't pan out.
Title: Re: shopping for extractor
Post by: Yarra_Valley on July 18, 2008, 10:01:04 AM
If you have a beekeeping club around that could be useful. Most beekeepers in my club stockpile all the stuff they want to sell for the yearly auction. However, if I need something, I usually ask in the meeting, and afterwards a few people tell me they've got what I want.

Anyway, I picked up an old extractor for AU$40. I also picked up another one off a farmer I know who didn't need it. I see the occasional extractor in my area on Ebay, which could be useful. I've never wanted to spend too much on an extractor, as I'm not sure how many hives I will grow to yet. If and when I do buy a higher capacity motor driven one, i'd like to by it secondhand, so I can could sell and get a decent price for it. It would be the kind of investment I'd want to make once though.