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Title: Found an odd little swarm twenty feet from my hives today
Post by: Bill W. on August 11, 2008, 11:34:03 PM
(http://www.beesbythesea.com/Bees_by_the_Sea_Apiary/News/Entries/2008/8/11_Mystery_Bees_files/shapeimage_2.jpg)

I can't figure out where they came from.  No queen and only a few hundred lonely bees.  None of my hives have swarmed recently.  Strange.

More pics. (http://www.beesbythesea.com/Bees_by_the_Sea_Apiary/News/Entries/2008/8/11_Mystery_Bees.html)
Title: Re: Found an odd little swarm twenty feet from my hives today
Post by: Kathyp on August 11, 2008, 11:41:54 PM
might have been a swarm with a virgin queen.  they are very hard to spot. could have been some leftovers from a bigger swarm. combining is probably the only way to go.
Title: Re: Found an odd little swarm twenty feet from my hives today
Post by: TwT on August 11, 2008, 11:43:59 PM
Quote from: kathyp on August 11, 2008, 11:41:54 PM
might have been a swarm with a virgin queen.  they are very hard to spot. could have been some leftovers from a bigger swarm. combining is probably the only way to go.


thats what I am thinking, a cast swarm with a virgin queen...
Title: Re: Found an odd little swarm twenty feet from my hives today
Post by: contactme_11 on August 12, 2008, 12:10:26 AM
I'd get them a queen and let them do there own thing. They might do okay.
Title: Re: Found an odd little swarm twenty feet from my hives today
Post by: Kathyp on August 12, 2008, 12:40:42 AM
QuoteI'd get them a queen and let them do there own thing. They might do okay.

probably not.  we are 6 to 8 weeks from first frost, depending on elevation.  not enough time to build up.  not enough time to draw comb. 
Title: Re: Found an odd little swarm twenty feet from my hives today
Post by: Bill W. on August 12, 2008, 12:49:02 AM
All together, these bees would only cover about a quarter of a frame.  I suppose I might put them in a nuc if I had a spare one, but I don't.  I'm planning to just add them to one of my existing hives.
Title: Re: Found an odd little swarm twenty feet from my hives today
Post by: JP on August 12, 2008, 11:09:03 AM
I've gotten swarm calls like this before, a small number, no queen, these could very well be the stragglers from a larger swarm that left these behind, combining is the way to go for something like this, they're too small to even nuc.


...JP
Title: Re: Found an odd little swarm twenty feet from my hives today
Post by: SgtMaj on August 12, 2008, 11:21:00 AM
Quote from: kathyp on August 12, 2008, 12:40:42 AMProbably not.  we are 6 to 8 weeks from first frost, depending on elevation.

Yeesh, you have a short year up there.
Title: Re: Found an odd little swarm twenty feet from my hives today
Post by: contactme_11 on August 12, 2008, 12:25:32 PM
Quote from: SgtMaj on August 12, 2008, 11:21:00 AM
Quote from: kathyp on August 12, 2008, 12:40:42 AMProbably not.  we are 6 to 8 weeks from first frost, depending on elevation.

Yeesh, you have a short year up there.

That's what I was thinking. We've got probably 14-16 weeks before we'll get a good frost here.
Title: Re: Found an odd little swarm twenty feet from my hives today
Post by: millermann1972 on August 12, 2008, 01:14:14 PM
i had the same thing happen last week twice. the first one i could not find the queen so i put them in a nuc to move them to a different yard and dumped the in front of a weak hive. the next day there was another swarm on the same tree but a little bigger. as i was getting ready to put them in the nuc i heard a loud buzzing sound , looked up they where moving to another tree a few yards down. i got them in a nuc with drawn comb and they have a  queen laying like crazy. maybe the bees where waiting on the queen to leave .
Title: Re: Found an odd little swarm twenty feet from my hives today
Post by: SgtMaj on August 12, 2008, 10:03:46 PM
Quote from: contactme_11 on August 12, 2008, 12:25:32 PMThat's what I was thinking. We've got probably 14-16 weeks before we'll get a good frost here.

Yeah, and we've got about 16-20 or so.
Title: Re: Found an odd little swarm twenty feet from my hives today
Post by: tlynn on August 12, 2008, 10:20:45 PM
Quote from: SgtMaj on August 12, 2008, 10:03:46 PM
Quote from: contactme_11 on August 12, 2008, 12:25:32 PMThat's what I was thinking. We've got probably 14-16 weeks before we'll get a good frost here.

Yeah, and we've got about 16-20 or so.

We had our first frost in 10 years last year!  Knocked all the leaves off my papaya!  8-)