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Title: Too late to hive a swarm in southern Wisconsin?
Post by: kevinmbong on August 25, 2008, 02:21:51 PM
Hi All,
Second year beekeeper, I hived a swarm last month which brought my number of hives up to four.
I just talked to someone today who has a swarm (size of two footballs) in their yard near my house.  Is it too late in the year to hive this swarm and get it to live through the winter? 

I also considered combining it with one of my weaker hives...but I doubt I'd be able to find and kill one of the queens (I'm no good at finding them).

Thanks in advance for your suggestions.  I've been a lurker here for a long time but this is my first post, ya-all are great group of very knowledgable people.

Kevin
Title: Re: Too late to hive a swarm in southern Wisconsin?
Post by: Bill W. on August 25, 2008, 03:50:14 PM
Two footballs is a pretty good number of bees.  I'd put them in a hive, start feeding immediately, and see how they do.  Then, as cold weather closes in, you can make the call on whether to combine them with a weaker hive.  It will also be easier to find the queen by then.  If you take your time, you ought to be able to spot a queen in one of the hives.
Title: Re: Too late to hive a swarm in southern Wisconsin?
Post by: Scadsobees on August 25, 2008, 04:39:11 PM
I don't think it is too late, especially if you can feed them for almost 2 months.  You can winter them on top of a larger hive to conserve heat.

Combining them with a weak hive is a great idea, use the newspaper combine and they can sort out the queens.

If nothing else you can put them on foundation and get a super of foundation drawn out full of honey for a split next year.
Title: Re: Too late to hive a swarm in southern Wisconsin?
Post by: ArmucheeBee on August 25, 2008, 06:47:40 PM
If you did not hive swarm and you left them in the yard.  What would become of them?  Would they not find a place of their own and try to store up before winter?  I guess they would all die eventually with limited food?   So saving them now and feeding them really is saving them?
Title: Re: Too late to hive a swarm in southern Wisconsin?
Post by: mtman1849 on August 25, 2008, 08:08:33 PM
I would hive it. and feed religously.
Title: Re: Too late to hive a swarm in southern Wisconsin?
Post by: Michael Bush on August 25, 2008, 10:28:22 PM
It's always worth hiving it.  In a month or two you can decide what to do next.
Title: Re: Too late to hive a swarm in southern Wisconsin?
Post by: Brian D. Bray on August 26, 2008, 12:31:48 AM
A swarm that size can make it with the right approach.  Put them into a 2 tier nuc box due to the amount of bees and feed them hard.  If you can get them to build out most of 2 nuc boxes of frames and make stores in the next month and a half they'll make it throught the winter in the nuc configuration where they wouldn't in a standard 8 or 10 frame hive.  Up and narrow works better for overwintering bees if limited size, space, or resources.