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Title: Making up large amounts of sugar syrup
Post by: broke-t on October 17, 2008, 01:22:48 PM
I need to make up 22 gallons of s.s. to feed 11 colonies their Fumagilin-B.

How do yall go about making up large amounts of s.s.?

thanks,  Johnny
Title: Re: Making up large amounts of sugar syrup
Post by: Brian D. Bray on October 17, 2008, 01:44:57 PM
Quote from: broke-t on October 17, 2008, 01:22:48 PM
I need to make up 22 gallons of s.s. to feed 11 colonies their Fumagilin-B.

How do yall go about making up large amounts of s.s.?

thanks,  Johnny

Same way I make small amounts, just increase the amounts accordingly.
Since 5 lbs of sugar and 5 pints of water make 1 gallon of 1:1 syrup all you need to do is mix 110 lbs of sugar to 12.5 gallons of water.
However, the syrup can spoil so I would recommend not making more than you can feed at a time.  If you have feeders that will hold several gallons each then making that quantity may be okay, but this time of year the weather is apt to get too cold for several days at a time for the bees to take the syrup.  During those cold snaps the syrup will still spoil, albit at a slower rate.
Title: Re: Making up large amounts of sugar syrup
Post by: rdy-b on October 17, 2008, 02:51:03 PM
MIX ONE TWENTY FIVE POUND BAG PER FIVE GALLON BUCKET -ADD SUGAR TO WATTER-about 3.5-4 gallons -use drill and paint paddle to mix -1-1 i use cold water no problem- ;) RDY-B
Title: Re: Making up large amounts of sugar syrup
Post by: WhipCityBeeMan on October 17, 2008, 04:39:25 PM
I wouldn't use cold water.  I prefer to heat the water so the sugar dissolves into the water. 
Title: Re: Making up large amounts of sugar syrup
Post by: rdy-b on October 17, 2008, 08:08:02 PM
Quote from: WhipCityBeeMan on October 17, 2008, 04:39:25 PM
I wouldn't use cold water.  I prefer to heat the water so the sugar dissolves into the water. 
mixing 1-1 with cold water is doable mix well add sugar to water -dont ad water to sugar-it will look cloudy but it will turn clear -2-1 must dissolve sugar into hot water -many commercial keepers mix 1-1 by pumping water out of and back into a tank -and cycling the sugar water mix -but if you fell that the benefit of hot water is worth the effort by all means heat the water its your call-many people put way to much into making simple syrup-and worry about exact ratios and such-it is not rocket science -by all means give your bees the best effort affordable - 8-)  RDY-B
Title: Re: Making up large amounts of sugar syrup
Post by: BEES4U on October 18, 2008, 12:22:22 AM



MEDIVET FUMAGILLIN MIXING CHART(Located on the package insert.)

9 and 1/3 gallons of water + 152 pounds of granulated sugar = 21 gallons
+ 90 gram package size of Fumagillin
I use a squirrel cage paint mixer on a drill.
Mix the Fumagillin in a quart of water and shake, pour into your container, add the total amount of water, mix, add sugar slowly, mix and feed out of the sunlight
For larger amounts:
We fill our syrup tank with 44 gallons of water, add the dissolved Fumagillin, start the Dadant syrup pump, circulate, add 727 pounds of granulated syrup, circulate the mixture for 30 minutes or more, drive out to the bee yard and fill the inside feeders. Each doubles will get two feedings or more and the singles get one gallon as per the directions.
The "old Fumagillin" was difficult to get into solution and you had to use warm water.
MEDIVET Fumagillin will dissolve fast in cold water.
To make the math work easier for mixing we mix 45 gallons of water + 750 pounds of sugar.
Good luck

Ernie











Title: Re: Making up large amounts of sugar syrup
Post by: broke-t on October 18, 2008, 09:49:19 AM
thanks everybody.

Johnny
Title: Re: Making up large amounts of sugar syrup
Post by: buzzbee on October 18, 2008, 10:32:30 AM
Be sure direct sunlight does not shine in the syrup for long. Fumagillin loses its effectiveness when exposed to sunlight. Use a solid or opaque container or close inside of hive .
Title: Re: Making up large amounts of sugar syrup
Post by: BEES4U on October 18, 2008, 11:36:21 AM

I made some "crown boards" , reversable cover,with a 3/4" depth that I use to feed pollen patties or syrup in zip lock bags. The zip lock bag can have a few small slits cut in it or some small cuts around the sides of the bag. Actually, I use a sack needle for making the holes because it make a small hole that closes up just enough for 5 + bees to consume the syrup.
Ernie