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BEEKEEPING LEARNING CENTER => HONEYBEE REMOVAL => Topic started by: Understudy on May 20, 2009, 07:36:40 PM

Title: The difficult removal
Post by: Understudy on May 20, 2009, 07:36:40 PM
I got a call on some bees that managed to find the perfect place to hide. I can't get to the nest without compromising the structural integrity of the house.

(http://www.brendhanhorne.com/coppermine_dir/albums/userpics/10001/normal_dscn1170a.jpg) (http://www.brendhanhorne.com/coppermine_dir/displayimage.php?album=193&pos=0)

The bees are still there. I am working on a way to get them out.

Sincerely,
Brendhan

Title: Re: The difficult removal
Post by: G3farms on May 20, 2009, 10:36:53 PM
That looks like a dandy cut out.

From the looks of the pic, does anybody live in the house now?

How long have they been in there, hopefully not long and are not real established.

Good luck with it and keep us posted on it.

G3
Title: Re: The difficult removal
Post by: Understudy on May 20, 2009, 10:38:44 PM
Quote from: G3farms on May 20, 2009, 10:36:53 PM
That looks like a dandy cut out.

From the looks of the pic, does anybody live in the house now?

How long have they been in there, hopefully not long and are not real established.

Good luck with it and keep us posted on it.

G3

Home is very occupied. Bees have been there for at least six months.

Will keep everyone updated.

Sincerely,
Brendhan
Title: Re: The difficult removal
Post by: iddee on May 20, 2009, 11:08:28 PM
Looks like a possible trap out candidate.
Title: Re: The difficult removal
Post by: JP on May 21, 2009, 12:42:37 AM
How would you be compromising the structural integrity? If what I'm seeing is accurate, they should be between the sheetrock ceiling and the roof sheating, is that correct?

What is the dark triangle, rear left corner?


...JP
Title: Re: The difficult removal
Post by: Understudy on May 21, 2009, 01:13:56 AM
Quote from: JP on May 21, 2009, 12:42:37 AM
How would you be compromising the structural integrity? If what I'm seeing is accurate, they should be between the sheetrock ceiling and the roof sheating, is that correct?

What is the dark triangle, rear left corner?


...JP
Dark triangle is where I cut an opening to discover the plywood for one of the roof lines. Remember there is a truss at the edge of angle there. and two roof angles coming together.

No sheetrock , plywood and truss beams.

Sincerely,
Brendhan
Title: Re: The difficult removal
Post by: JP on May 21, 2009, 01:20:19 AM
So what is pictured is not a sheetrock ceiling?


...JP
Title: Re: The difficult removal
Post by: Understudy on May 21, 2009, 01:26:00 AM
Yes sheetrock , I misunderstood you. The basic setup is sheetrock, truss, roofing plywood. The problem is since this is the corner of the house and two different angles of roof meet here. This is simply an ugly spot. i doubt the picture is adequate enough to show it all. Plus all the extra holes I made after that picture.

Sincerely,
Brendhan
Title: Re: The difficult removal
Post by: JP on May 21, 2009, 01:38:03 AM
Wish I could offer more assistance but like you said, hard to get a clear picture of things where I'm sitting.

Sure wish I was there with you, maybe between the two of us we could confuse the bees enough to want to abscond. :-D

Good luck and keep us informed on this one.


...JP
Title: Re: The difficult removal
Post by: Cheryl on May 21, 2009, 02:01:28 AM
Just have the homeowners/residents pound on the wall with their fist periodically throughout the day.... for, uh... a week or two or three.

Well, it worked for me! :lol:
Title: Re: The difficult removal
Post by: dirtyanklebeekeeper on May 21, 2009, 09:46:58 AM
Wonder where the made their entry?
Title: Re: The difficult removal
Post by: Understudy on May 21, 2009, 09:54:27 AM
Quote from: dirtyanklebeekeeper on May 21, 2009, 09:46:58 AM
Wonder where the made their entry?
Out side between the flashing and the wood trim.

Sincerely,
Brendhan
Title: Re: The difficult removal
Post by: cundald on May 21, 2009, 12:05:01 PM
Can you get more detailed picture, it may help us brain storm a possible attack.

It sound like your going to be working in very close quarters with areas that you will not be able to get assess to, a trap-out is the best line of attack.

Keep us informed to your decision and progress.

JP, what do you think.

Cundald


Title: Re: The difficult removal
Post by: Scadsobees on May 21, 2009, 05:17:36 PM
Must be hard working with that creepy writing scrawled on the wall right there... :-D

Wouldn't it be easier doing a trap out or even going through the roof?  Too high perhaps?

Rick

Title: Re: The difficult removal
Post by: Bee Happy on May 21, 2009, 09:42:41 PM
Quote from: Scadsobees on May 21, 2009, 05:17:36 PM
Must be hard working with that creepy writing scrawled on the wall right there... :-D

Wouldn't it be easier doing a trap out or even going through the roof?  Too high perhaps?

Rick
:lau: I think it was the use of red looking like spray-paint 
Be extra careful even using the term "structural integrity". (for your own liability)
if you're not cutting the truss, or bearing studs, or top plate... etc.
Title: Re: The difficult removal
Post by: Understudy on May 21, 2009, 09:54:49 PM
Quote from: Bee Happy on May 21, 2009, 09:42:41 PM
Quote from: Scadsobees on May 21, 2009, 05:17:36 PM
Must be hard working with that creepy writing scrawled on the wall right there... :-D

Wouldn't it be easier doing a trap out or even going through the roof?  Too high perhaps?

Rick
:lau: I think it was the use of red looking like spray-paint 
Be extra careful even using the term "structural integrity". (for your own liability)
if you're not cutting the truss, or bearing studs, or top plate... etc.

Red spray paint! I love it. photo effects are a wonderful thing.

25 years of construction experience allows me to use those terms in pretty accurate description. Load bearing, structural supports,   and why does your ceiling / floor sag like that are all things I have had a direct encounter with. That is why these bees are still there and I am conspiring to think of devious new ways to evict them. I would like to do it in such a way that the roof and bathroom do not become the new front patio. I wonder what happens when I cut this?

Sincerely,
Brendhan

Title: Re: The difficult removal
Post by: Cheryl on May 24, 2009, 04:46:30 PM
Injecting straight (strong) tea tree oil through the wall into the back of the nest cavity very often persuades them to abscond. It's the vapors that does it. Give them a week at the most, usually less. Have a bait hive ready.

this doesn't solve the problem of the comb inside the walls, though. It MIGHT make a cutout easier if you don't have to contend with the bees themselves. So you could do both. a persuaded abscond, and then a cutout. The honey would be harvestable, even if the brood doesn't keep - which it might!!