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Title: Are refractometers necessary?
Post by: mherndon on June 02, 2009, 11:07:51 PM
I'm planning on my first honey extraction this year and wondered if a refractometer was a necessary piece of equipment.  Is there any other way of determining moisture.  If I make sure just to harvest what is capped, will that be enough?


Mark
Title: Re: Are refractometers necessary?
Post by: NasalSponge on June 02, 2009, 11:38:13 PM
I have never owned one....make sure you are 80% or better capped honey and you should be fine.
Title: Re: Are refractometers necessary?
Post by: sc-bee on June 02, 2009, 11:46:50 PM
>and wondered if a refractometer was a necessary piece of equipment.  Is there any other way of determining moisture.  

Negative

>Is there any other way of determining moisture.  If I make sure just to harvest what is capped, will that be enough?

Capped is best. If some not capped use shake method. Hold frame side to side and start with a brisk downward motion. Make an abrupt stop at bottom. If uncapped nectar stays in frame and does not spill out when you make the abrupt stop --- nectar should be cured enough. Not the best way but it is an indicator.

I would not use too many open frames.
Title: Re: Are refractometers necessary?
Post by: Robo on June 03, 2009, 09:15:39 AM
Ditto to what has already been said.   I've been keeping bees over 30 years and have never owned a meter.   My method is ~75% or more capped and then the shake method as SC described.   When in doubt, just keep the batches separate.

rob..
Title: Re: Are refractometers necessary?
Post by: troutstalker2 on June 03, 2009, 10:20:52 PM


  I have a couple of supers that are about 50% capped, I was going to try to cut out the capped sections and store the rest for feed. Let them fill in the comb next year. What do you think?

David
Title: Re: Are refractometers necessary?
Post by: Robo on June 04, 2009, 08:59:42 AM
Quote from: troutstalker2 on June 03, 2009, 10:20:52 PM


  I have a couple of supers that are about 50% capped, I was going to try to cut out the capped sections and store the rest for feed. Let them fill in the comb next year. What do you think?

David

Why not just let them finish capping?   If your intent on get some honey out now,  just put them thru the extractor without uncapping and spin out all the nectar.   Then uncap and spin out the honey.   This way you don't have to butcher all the comb and can use it again.
Title: Re: Are refractometers necessary?
Post by: troutstalker2 on June 04, 2009, 09:23:11 AM


Honey flow is about done here, but good idea about spinning the nectar out.
Thanks, David
Title: Re: Are refractometers necessary?
Post by: Michael Bush on June 05, 2009, 03:22:21 PM
Maybe if you live in a very humid climate.  I'm 35 years into this and have never owned one.
Title: Re: Are refractometers necessary?
Post by: Brian D. Bray on June 05, 2009, 04:03:05 PM
Quote from: Michael Bush on June 05, 2009, 03:22:21 PM
Maybe if you live in a very humid climate.  I'm 35 years into this and have never owned one.

Gottcha beat, I've been beekeeping for 50 years and have only used a refractometer when I managed an Orange Julius Stand.  I've always judged the ripeness of the honey by the amount of capping per frame per super.
Title: Re: Are refractometers necessary?
Post by: NasalSponge on June 05, 2009, 07:02:09 PM
If we are talking about USING one I do that weekly.....but not for honey, for antifreeze. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Are refractometers necessary?
Post by: utahbeekeeper on June 06, 2009, 03:56:31 PM
NEED?     No, but I purchased one on eBay and do enjoy having it around. Here is the eBay store:

National Industrial Supply (http://stores.shop.ebay.com/National-Industrial-Supply__W0QQ_armrsZ1)

The guy was very helpful.  I didn't get one with a built in light.  Figured I would only be using it in the daytime.
Title: Re: Are refractometers necessary?
Post by: TwT on June 06, 2009, 06:55:32 PM
never owned one, I just wait for capped frames