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BEEKEEPING LEARNING CENTER => REQUEENING & RAISING NEW QUEENS => Topic started by: RZRBCK BEE on June 05, 2009, 10:16:12 PM

Title: Queen Rearing Kits
Post by: RZRBCK BEE on June 05, 2009, 10:16:12 PM
What do ya'll think about Jenter? Is it as easy as it looks?
Title: Re: Queen Rearing Kits
Post by: Michael Bush on June 06, 2009, 10:45:45 AM
It will simply grafting as much as it looks.  It will not simplify queen rearing.

http://www.bushfarms.com/beesqueenrearing.htm
Title: Re: Queen Rearing Kits
Post by: mgmoore7 on June 06, 2009, 02:28:15 PM
Just graft.  After 3 unsuccessful attempts with the Nicot system (similar to Jenter), I decided to graft.  I now think grafting is easier and it is cheaper too.  You can get setup to graft for less than $30 (grafting tool, cell frame, cell cups). 
Title: Re: Queen Rearing Kits
Post by: Michael Bush on June 06, 2009, 03:08:35 PM
There are many options to avoid grafting.  Here are a few:

http://www.bushfarms.com/beeshopkinsmethod.htm
http://www.bushfarms.com/beeshopkins1886.htm
http://www.bushfarms.com/beesmillermethod.htm
http://www.bushfarms.com/beesbetterqueens.htm
http://www.bushfarms.com/beesalleymethod.htm
Title: Re: Queen Rearing Kits
Post by: Hethen57 on June 07, 2009, 10:57:46 PM
I've read a number of different artcles on queen rearing methods, but there is one thing that I haven't seen them explain.  How do you get the fresh comb, with no eggs, larva, pollen, or nectar for the queen to lay eggs in when using the Hopkins Method?
Title: Re: Queen Rearing Kits
Post by: Michael Bush on June 08, 2009, 07:05:22 AM
Usually from a super.  :)
Title: Re: Queen Rearing Kits
Post by: Hethen57 on June 08, 2009, 01:16:22 PM
I know it probably sounded like a dumb question, but it seems like they start filling the fresh comb in my hives with eggs, pollen, nectar, etc. before they complete it.  Also, I wasn't sure how that would work as far as cell size...don't they make the honey storage cells up in the super slightly larger than the brood cells?  BTW - I use foundation.  Thanks.
-Mike
Title: Re: Queen Rearing Kits
Post by: Robo on June 08, 2009, 01:32:46 PM
Quote from: RZRBCK BEE on June 05, 2009, 10:16:12 PM
What do ya'll think about Jenter? Is it as easy as it looks?

I've used the Nicot with good success.   There are some key "gotcha steps" though, so you can easily go from many to no cells.

http://robo.bushkillfarms.com/beekeeping/queen-rearing/
Title: Re: Queen Rearing Kits
Post by: jdpro5010 on June 08, 2009, 05:53:45 PM
Quote from: Robo on June 08, 2009, 01:32:46 PM
Quote from: RZRBCK BEE on June 05, 2009, 10:16:12 PM
What do ya'll think about Jenter? Is it as easy as it looks?

I've used the Nicot with good success.   There are some key "gotcha steps" though, so you can easily go from many to no cells.

http://robo.bushkillfarms.com/beekeeping/queen-rearing/


I too have used the Nicot with success.  I also have grafted with success.  The hard part for me was being sure about queenlessness in the cell builder.  That took a couple of tries until I learned some of the secrets and gained a little experience.