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BEEKEEPING LEARNING CENTER => EQUIPMENT USAGE, EXPERIMENTATION, HIVE PLANS, CONSTRUCTION TIPS AND TOOLS => Topic started by: homer on September 06, 2009, 12:09:04 PM

Title: Oxalic Acid Vaporizer
Post by: homer on September 06, 2009, 12:09:04 PM
I am making my own vaporizer and trying to keep it as small as possible.  Could anyone that turrently has one of the jb-200 models, please tell me how much the measuring spoon holds that comes with the unit?  In terms of teaspoons or tablespoons would help me out.

Thanks
Title: Re: Oxalic Acid Vaporizer
Post by: Jim134 on September 06, 2009, 12:18:22 PM
http://forum.beemaster.com/index.php/topic,18406.0.html

http://robo.bushkillfarms.com/downloads/beekeeping/JB200ElectricOxalicAcidVaporizer.pdf

One gram per Langstroth deep box.

  BEE HAPPY Jim 134  :)
Title: Re: Oxalic Acid Vaporizer
Post by: hardwood on September 06, 2009, 12:24:47 PM
I've also seen plans for a propane torch model somewhere on the web but can't find it now :'( If anyone knows of it post the link pleeeese.
Scott
Title: Re: Oxalic Acid Vaporizer
Post by: homer on September 06, 2009, 12:29:26 PM
Thanks for that info... but I'm looking for an actual measurement of the crystals.  The one I made holds slightly less than the one in that post and I want to know how much is the right amount.
Title: Re: Oxalic Acid Vaporizer
Post by: Jim134 on September 06, 2009, 12:42:30 PM
Quote from: BMBeeFarm on November 05, 2008, 09:15:22 AM
aluminum block is 1.700 x 1.165 x .360 cup is machined in block 1.170 x 1.050 x .325 machined tight to one side leaving space for glow plug hole. block holding glow plug is .450 x .450 x 1.663 threads on glow are machined off. set screw in block holds it in place.



   BEE HAPPY Jim 134  :)
Title: Re: Oxalic Acid Vaporizer
Post by: homer on September 06, 2009, 01:06:58 PM
Quote from: Jim 134 on September 06, 2009, 12:42:30 PM
Quote from: BMBeeFarm on November 05, 2008, 09:15:22 AM
aluminum block is 1.700 x 1.165 x .360 cup is machined in block 1.170 x 1.050 x .325 machined tight to one side leaving space for glow plug hole. block holding glow plug is .450 x .450 x 1.663 threads on glow are machined off. set screw in block holds it in place.



   BEE HAPPY Jim 134  :)



Again, thanks for the info.  I realize that those are the dimensions for the cup in the vaporizer, but I am looking for the volume of acid crystals that the measuring spoon holds that comes with the unit.  In other words, it says you should use 2-3 grams of acid crystals... what does that amount to in volume.  Here's the deal, I already made a cup to hook a glow plug into and I want to measure out the proper amount of crystals and put into it to see if I made it large enough.  I am a CNC lathe operator and built the cup on a machine with live tooling and I know the cup that I made is slightly smaller than the dimensions shown in your post, but I want to see if it is large enough anyway.
Title: Re: Oxalic Acid Vaporizer
Post by: hardwood on September 06, 2009, 02:22:00 PM
Homer,
I just read that 1g per langstroth hive body is recommended.
Hope that helps.
Scott
Title: Re: Oxalic Acid Vaporizer
Post by: Robo on September 06, 2009, 04:00:46 PM
Homer,

In my experience with the JB200, I think it's cup is marginally small.  Yes it hold the 2 grams of oxalic acid, but ones you start heating it and the oxalic acid starts boiling, in spills out of the cup.
Title: Re: Oxalic Acid Vaporizer
Post by: homer on September 06, 2009, 05:59:48 PM
Quote from: Robo on September 06, 2009, 04:00:46 PM
Homer,

In my experience with the JB200, I think it's cup is marginally small.  Yes it hold the 2 grams of oxalic acid, but ones you start heating it and the oxalic acid starts boiling, in spills out of the cup.

That is good info Robo,  didn't take that into consideration.  I think I better modify my plans and make the cup dimension a little larger.
Title: Re: Oxalic Acid Vaporizer
Post by: rast on September 06, 2009, 11:04:12 PM
 A 1/2" copper pipe nipple will hold right at 2 grams by weight. I measured it (Dap wood bleach) one time on a gram scale. That is very close to 1/2 TSP. I just use the pipe nipple to measure. It will boil and splatter when boiled.
Title: Re: Oxalic Acid Vaporizer
Post by: homer on September 07, 2009, 11:14:25 AM
Quote from: rast on September 06, 2009, 11:04:12 PM
a 1/2" copper pipe nipple will hold right at 2 grams by weight. I measured it (Dap wood bleach) one time on a gram scale. That is very close to 1/2 TSP. I just use the pipe nipple to measure. It will boil and splatter when boiled.

Finally... EXACTLY the info that I was looking for.  Thank you very much!
Title: Re: Oxalic Acid Vaporizer
Post by: homer on September 17, 2009, 01:13:11 PM
One more vaporizer question for those of you that already have one....  How is the aluminum block, that holds the glow plug, attached to the pan underneath?
Title: Re: Oxalic Acid Vaporizer
Post by: Robo on September 17, 2009, 01:25:58 PM
two flush mounted machine screws
Title: Re: Oxalic Acid Vaporizer
Post by: homer on September 17, 2009, 07:07:10 PM
Quote from: Robo on September 17, 2009, 01:25:58 PM
two flush mounted machine screws

Done and done.... thank you sir!  Shant be long now!