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Title: Virgin queen mating
Post by: Grid on April 05, 2010, 04:39:58 PM
I have two hives, well, one now :'(  My Hawaiian-Italian hive made it through the winter, but without their queen.  I looked yesterday, and there were no eggs anywhere in the hive.  Not sure what happened to her - she was laying fine in the fall.  Might have been the fall formic acid treatment. 

Anyway, I gave them a frame of eggs and brood from my other hive - Russian - about three weeks ago.  Yesterday there were three queen cells on the frame.  One large cell, open at the end (I'm hoping a virgin queen emerged and is waiting to mate), and two mini-queen cells, sealed.  These were weird; they looked like runt queen cells, half as long and half as wide, but they were capped.  Half-castes? 

Anyway, I put another frame of eggs in there from the Russian hive, and will see what develops.  I am not going to weaken my good hive any more.  I have local queens on order, but they will not arrive for a month or so.

- What are the odd miniature queen cells?  I'm sorry I have no pics.
- Anyone know if a virgin queen this early in the season has a hope of mating?  Assuming that is what I have, will she wait until drones are flying, or is she done since there are none now?

Thanks.
Grid
Title: Re: Virgin queen mating
Post by: fish_stix on April 05, 2010, 11:20:58 PM
You sure you're not seeing just the tip of a full size cell? Many times queen cells at the bottom of a frame will have comb built around them and look like a mini-cell. Queen cells do, however, vary in size quite a bit. Look at pics of a cell bar after the cells are capped and there will a lot of variance.