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Title: Making honey crystalize... is it possible?
Post by: marksmith on April 14, 2010, 06:31:44 PM
I am a smoker. Recently I got a wild hare and substituted my brown sugar in the rib rub recipe that I use with very old crystalized honey.  I took it out of the jar in chunks and used a coffee grinder to make it small granules.  When I got done, it was the consistency of fresh brown sugar with just a touch too much molasses.  I combined this with all my other ingredients and threw the ribs in the smoker @ 225.

I usually have to mist with apple juice to keep the rub moist.  Not this time.  About half hour into the smoke it started glazing.  It did it at such a high temperature that the honey didn't melt off and drip... just leathered up and made the most awesome bark on my ribs that I have ever experienced. The flavor was awesome and tell the truth.... I bet these racks were of the award winning sort.

I tried using raw honey in liquid form to see if I could replecate the results.  No go. It was sticky drippy mess.  I used the other half of the quart of crystalized honey and  BAM!!! (Emeril is my hero) the ribs were awesome.


SO... help a newbee out.  Is there a tried and true way to get honey to crystalize nice and hard like that one quart jar that I had? (Have NO clue how old it was)



Thanks all
Mark
Title: Re: Making honey crystalize... is it possible?
Post by: Bee Happy on April 14, 2010, 06:44:20 PM
I think it all depends on the variety of honey you get, I can't elaborate more than that though.
Title: Re: Making honey crystalize... is it possible?
Post by: wildbeekeeper on April 14, 2010, 06:47:56 PM
i think you can add a small amount of crystalized honey into fresh honey and it will "grow" and crystallize everything there.  Or maybe you can chill it in the fridge a little... not sure of that will do it.  Darker honey does crystallize more frequently though
Title: Re: Making honey crystalize... is it possible?
Post by: iddee on April 14, 2010, 06:57:26 PM
Do a search for creamed honey. You should be able to find instructions easily.
Title: Re: Making honey crystalize... is it possible?
Post by: deknow on April 14, 2010, 07:14:19 PM
many honeys will crystalize if you put them in the fridge (not the freezer).  if you want to control the size of the crystal, first heat/filter the honey, then seed it with some honey with the crystal size you want (creamed honey for small crystals).

deknow
Title: Re: Making honey crystalize... is it possible?
Post by: hardwood on April 14, 2010, 08:49:20 PM
As has been posted, seed it with crystals. The optimum temp for crystallization is 60F.

Scott
Title: Re: Making honey crystalize... is it possible?
Post by: marksmith on April 14, 2010, 09:28:32 PM
Thanks everyone!


I'll have to get a gallon and seed it.  My garage stays about the right temp.



To be continued....
Title: Re: Making honey crystalize... is it possible?
Post by: sc-bee on April 15, 2010, 01:28:19 AM
Dyce Method

http://www.masterbeekeeper.org/dyce/creamhoney.htm (http://www.masterbeekeeper.org/dyce/creamhoney.htm)

Seed with the size crystal you prefer (at least that is my understanding :-D)
Title: Re: Making honey crystalize... is it possible?
Post by: Michael Bush on April 15, 2010, 05:41:18 AM
Basically seed and temperature is what crytalization is all about.  The dyce method above should give you all that info.  I find that the window sill of my house in the winter is perfect.  In the spring and fall when it's cool but not freezing outside, the porch works well...
Title: Re: Making honey crystalize... is it possible?
Post by: BeeHopper on April 15, 2010, 08:49:34 AM
Quote from: marksmith on April 14, 2010, 06:31:44 PM
I am a smoker. Recently I got a wild hare and substituted my brown sugar in the rib rub recipe that I use with very old crystalized honey.  I took it out of the jar in chunks and used a coffee grinder to make it small granules.  When I got done, it was the consistency of fresh brown sugar with just a touch too much molasses.  I combined this with all my other ingredients and threw the ribs in the smoker @ 225.

I usually have to mist with apple juice to keep the rub moist.  Not this time.  About half hour into the smoke it started glazing.  It did it at such a high temperature that the honey didn't melt off and drip... just leathered up and made the most awesome bark on my ribs that I have ever experienced. The flavor was awesome and tell the truth.... I bet these racks were of the award winning sort.

I tried using raw honey in liquid form to see if I could replecate the results.  No go. It was sticky drippy mess.  I used the other half of the quart of crystalized honey and  BAM!!! (Emeril is my hero) the ribs were awesome.


SO... help a newbee out.  Is there a tried and true way to get honey to crystalize nice and hard like that one quart jar that I had? (Have NO clue how old it was)



Thanks all
Mark

So....................when ya inviting us over  ;) :-D