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Title: Thin honey
Post by: tillie on June 27, 2010, 11:46:42 PM
Today I harvested three frames of honey from a box that had all capped honey frames and has had for several weeks.  I needed to harvest these frames for a teaching movie my bee club is making on harvesting honey and I was demonstrating crush and strain.

I bottled the honey and thought it seemed really thin.  I got out my refractometer and it read 20.2.  That certainly isn't 18.6.  Yet all the cells - every single one of them on all three frames--were fully capped.

So why would the bees cap honey that wasn't thick enough yet?  I assume this will ferment or mold because it isn't 18.6. 

Is there anything I should do?  Should I not harvest the rest of the box?

Linda T in Atlanta, worried about the honey
Title: Re: Thin honey
Post by: Paynesgrey on June 27, 2010, 11:59:14 PM
We noticed that the honey they capped earlier in the year was a lot thinner too...but have no refractometer. What's up with this?
Title: Re: Thin honey
Post by: AllenF on June 28, 2010, 02:09:43 PM
Don't bottle the honey that you have crushed yet.   Leave it out to dry some more.  I put a bucket in my attic for a couple of days one year to thicken up.
Title: Re: Thin honey
Post by: asprince on June 28, 2010, 08:35:20 PM
I heard an old time bee keeper say that it could be "cured" by placing the honey in an open container with a small fan blowing over the surface.

Steve 
Title: Re: Thin honey
Post by: doak on June 28, 2010, 10:59:14 PM
There are ways to evaporate some of the excess moisture. Fanning in a low humidity environment.
De-humidifier.

This thin honey normally runs hand in hand with a wet season.    My Mentor just quit extracting all together and was running his De-humidifier 24/7
Just evaporate the extra moisture some way to an 18 +/-.

If you don't make mead. Or cannot trade it off to some one who does.
I have 4 gallons of sour honey and don't make mead.

Best I can help. :)doak
Title: Re: Thin honey
Post by: tillie on June 28, 2010, 11:27:09 PM
Well, I've set it on top of the dehumidifier, running.  Would it help to put the covered bucket outside in the sun tomorrow or would that heat it too much? 

I wonder why the bees cap honey that isn't ready - I never take frames that aren't 100% capped - so this makes no sense to me, although the weather as per doak may be the answer.  We have had some rainy stretches.

And does this mean that the other 7 frames in this super are probably also filled with less than quality honey?

Linda T in Atlanta, distressed over my lack of honey this year
Title: Re: Thin honey
Post by: theriverhawk on June 29, 2010, 10:45:14 AM
We got very little Tulip poplar flow this year.  All my honey is very clear and thinner.  It was all capped, though.  I had my hives at a location that has 1000+ acres covered in blackberries.  I attributed the clear, thinner honey to the abundance of blackberries and the lack of tulip poplar. 
Hmmmm...now you guys have me wondering if I need to uncap all the jars and run a fan over them for a day to two!!
Title: Re: Thin honey
Post by: tillie on June 29, 2010, 01:57:27 PM
The thing is that honey that is more than 19% moisture is bound to ferment.  I'm not a mead maker, but maybe this would be great for mead.

I opened all the bottles I had filled and poured it back into the bucket to put it on the dehumidifier.  I'm so very sad about this - I am getting absolutely NO honey this year, if the rest of the frames in my one harvestable box will also be thin honey, as I suspect will be the case.

This harvest measured about 20.1 or 20.2 moisture content.

LT