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Title: What should I do
Post by: scoobee on August 05, 2010, 01:25:48 PM
I did an inspection today. It has been about 2 weeks since my last one. On July 1st, I had some club members come do an inspection with me and according to them I was getting honeybound and needed to put another box on. The only other box I had was a medium so I put that on. I really wanted to put on another deep for my second but didn't have one. Today I went thru the medium box and noticed that from frame 1 to 10 was nothing but uncapped honey, the frames were not completely drawn but mostly.  I believe that I could take the medium off since it is honey and replace it with a deep that I now have, and then put the medium  back on. Would this sound reasonable? And if I do and I'm puting another deep on as the second should I put a queen extruder on between the second deep and the medium.                                                                                                                                                                                                       I did not see the queen but saw a lot of larvae, my eyes are still not good enough to see eggs. The bees were calm and great to work with up until I lifted the whole hive up to place a hive bottom on, then they lit me up. They don't appreciate my efforts to pretty up their home.
        As always your advise and help is appreciated.

                                    Scoobee
Title: Re: What should I do
Post by: D Coates on August 05, 2010, 02:29:42 PM
Put the deep on there with the medium on top.  A this point I wouldn't worry about an excluder.  You probably already have eggs in the medium anyway  No biggie.  With that type of flow that gets a medium drawn and filled in two weeks, and other members saying you're getting honeybound in the deep the queen is going to be itching to lay anywhere there's an open cell.  Once any brood that's in the medium emerges they'll backfill those cells with honey if the flow is still on.
Title: Re: What should I do
Post by: Pink Cow on August 05, 2010, 03:25:19 PM
You might think about moving 2-3 frames containing brood from the lower deep into the upper to encourage them to use it for that purpose. I learned this the hard way when they filled the top deep entirely with honey and got even more honeybound in the lower box.
Title: Re: What should I do
Post by: alfred on August 05, 2010, 04:59:16 PM
I would probably put the new deep in underneath the old deep and/or split the frames up so that the honey bound frames are to the outside of the two deeps and the brood and empty frames to the center. Putting all of the brood frames together if they already aren't.

Then if your super/medium is already full you also need to put on anouther super to give them a place to fill with stores as well or they will continue to fill the brood chamber.

Definite agreement with no excluder.
Title: Re: What should I do
Post by: hoxbar on August 05, 2010, 06:21:03 PM
Congratulations! You got yourself a good hive of working girls! The same thing happened to me this year. I did exactly what you wanted to do. Here we use mediums for our second brood box instead of another deep. I just took the filled super off and put a empty super on top of my deep. I then put the uncapped honey super on top of the empty super. I did not use a queen excluder, we do not have luck with them around here. Do not do as some suggest and move the frames around. That will only screw up your bees, they are making honey and that is what we want them to do. Don't worry it'll work out fine.
Title: Re: What should I do
Post by: iddee on August 05, 2010, 10:17:13 PM
Pulling 2 or 3 frames up into the second box may not work in OK, but it will work in Fla. It isn't totally necessary, tho. Either way will work.

I like adding the new deep on the bottom of it all best, tho, whether you move frames or not.