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Title: 8 frame
Post by: super dave on August 05, 2010, 04:00:13 PM
hi does any one have the sizes for building you own
thanks
Title: Re: 8 frame
Post by: super dave on August 05, 2010, 04:04:57 PM
haha i for got to put in "your own 8 frame boxes"
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Post by: super dave on August 05, 2010, 04:21:17 PM
oh i found them
Title: Re: 8 frame
Post by: fish_stix on August 06, 2010, 08:07:00 PM
13 3/4" wide, everything else the same as 10 frame.
Title: Re: 8 frame
Post by: super dave on August 06, 2010, 09:23:20 PM
thanks thats the um. i was looking for
Title: Re: 8 frame
Post by: kbenz on August 13, 2010, 07:32:29 PM
Quote from: fish_stix on August 06, 2010, 08:07:00 PM
13 3/4" wide, everything else the same as 10 frame.

is that inside or outside dimension?
Title: Re: 8 frame
Post by: super dave on August 13, 2010, 08:52:28 PM
that is the outside size and the wood would be 3/4" thick(1x stock from you local lowes and home depot)
Title: Re: 8 frame
Post by: CountryBee on August 14, 2010, 08:45:05 AM
super dave, are you wintering them in an 8 frame super in PA?  My dad is going to try to this year in NY, all of his honey bees are in 8 frames supers.  They built up fast but I told him that 2 of them is equal to 1.5 of my 10 frame deeps so frame per frame it is the same speed.  But I am just curious how the narrowness will affect the winter cluster up here.  Any thoughts?  Thanks so much, Country :)
Title: Re: 8 frame
Post by: super dave on August 14, 2010, 01:08:47 PM
im doing 9 frames now --i feel that 8  frames would keep the cluster tighter for the cold times
Title: Re: 8 frame
Post by: CountryBee on August 14, 2010, 06:07:06 PM
Thanks :)
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Post by: ronwhite3030 on August 15, 2010, 12:34:11 AM
question, why would a person use an 8 frame hive instead of a 10 frame and can someone tell me why people use 9 frame hives?
Title: Re: 8 frame
Post by: Michael Bush on August 15, 2010, 12:35:53 AM
>But I am just curious how the narrowness will affect the winter cluster up here.  Any thoughts?

They leave less honey behind as the cluster fits the box better.
Title: Re: 8 frame
Post by: ronwhite3030 on August 15, 2010, 12:41:49 AM
Quote from: Michael Bush on August 15, 2010, 12:35:53 AM
>But I am just curious how the narrowness will affect the winter cluster up here.  Any thoughts?

They leave less honey behind as the cluster fits the box better.



they leave less? the bees or the beek when they extract?
Title: Re: 8 frame
Post by: CountryBee on August 15, 2010, 08:16:47 AM
Michael, do you think that dad's bees should survive a NY winter in the 8 frame supers as compared to all of our 10 frames that we have been using forever?  As fast a build up and recovery in spring?  Thanks,Country :)
Title: Re: 8 frame
Post by: super dave on August 15, 2010, 10:55:51 AM
>question, why would a person use an 8 frame hive instead of a 10 frame and can someone tell me why people use 9 frame hives?<

really i cant remember why i started making my hives that size, but i just did and now im wanting to down size for even lighter boxes and the better wintering
Title: Re: 8 frame
Post by: Michael Bush on August 15, 2010, 11:32:13 AM
>Michael, do you think that dad's bees should survive a NY winter in the 8 frame supers as compared to all of our 10 frames that we have been using forever?

They will do as well or better.

> As fast a build up and recovery in spring?

The closer walls seem to make it easier to build up and conserve heat.  They certainly are not a disadvantage.
Title: Re: 8 frame
Post by: CountryBee on August 15, 2010, 02:01:10 PM
As well or better!  Amazing, my dad still knows more than me!  When I build more hive bodies should I build 8 frame supers instead of 10's?  I started building mediums like Michael's site showed a few months ago and they are a lot lighter but I built 10 frame ones.
Title: Re: 8 frame
Post by: super dave on August 15, 2010, 06:42:16 PM
there is a guy out this way who winters his hives in nukes,stacks  them high----i dont know if that is for me around on  my hill with the wind, maybe if i had a pole i  could strap it to-- hmmmm
Title: Re: 8 frame
Post by: CountryBee on August 16, 2010, 07:23:59 AM
hmmm :-D
Title: Re: 8 frame
Post by: eastsidebuzz on August 18, 2010, 11:33:50 PM
I would worry about the mites from the top being pass down. The bottom hive would get all of them.  :shock:
Title: Re: 8 frame
Post by: CountryBee on August 18, 2010, 11:39:08 PM
Thanks Michael Bush! Country :)