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Title: Sugar free honey
Post by: AllenF on August 23, 2010, 10:21:26 PM
One of the guys I work with told me today while we was riding to work that he ran out of honey and went to Kroger to get some.   He bought a bottle of sugar free honey and thought that it would be better on his peanut butter sandwiches than normal honey.   Then he got home and read the back of the bottle.   Imitation honey on the label in small print.   I told him to bring me the old jar of honey I gave him last and I would refill it.  

Has anyone else seen anything like this?
Title: Re: Sugar free honey
Post by: hankdog1 on August 23, 2010, 10:29:10 PM
Yep go to your local dollar store.  It's all over though it's cheaper then honey.  I know our local dollar store carries it in little 8 oz. bears for a buck.  Never have gave it a try though seems to me i have the real thing so no use spending money on fake stuff.  I must say the sugar free should have tipped him off though.
Title: Re: Sugar free honey
Post by: dennis2021 on August 24, 2010, 10:38:44 AM
go to KFC.... high fructose corn syrup in the honey sauce...what a joke. Most people don't look.
Title: Re: Sugar free honey
Post by: L Daxon on August 24, 2010, 10:57:16 AM
Yes, I saw the "sugar free" honey on the shelf at Wal-Mart. About died laughing when i read the label:  imitation honey.  Some people will fall for anything.
Title: Re: Sugar free honey
Post by: BeeHopper on August 24, 2010, 03:20:57 PM
Sugar-Free honey  :?

Kinda like Alcohol-Free Moonshine  :roll:
Title: Re: Sugar free honey
Post by: CAHighwind on August 24, 2010, 06:58:05 PM
...like O'dules beer in honey form.

The mess and stickiness of honey with NONE OF THE TASTE!

sign me up... /sarcasm.
Title: Re: Sugar free honey
Post by: manfre on August 24, 2010, 11:19:14 PM
That can't taste very good.
Title: Re: Sugar free honey
Post by: greenbtree on August 25, 2010, 12:58:24 AM
Sugar free honey - definitely a contradiction in terms.  I bought some baklava at Sams Club once - awful stuff - should of read the label first, the main ingredient was high fructose corn syrup.  Some things should be against the law.

JC
Title: Re: Sugar free honey
Post by: winginit on August 25, 2010, 08:51:56 AM
This makes me very sad. What is our society coming to?

Of course, I buy imitation, lower calorie maple syrup, which will also bug me should I ever be successful at getting syrup out of my own trees. :-\
Title: Re: Sugar free honey
Post by: VolunteerK9 on August 25, 2010, 10:04:55 AM
Quote from: winginit on August 25, 2010, 08:51:56 AM
This makes me very sad. What is our society coming to?

Of course, I buy imitation, lower calorie maple syrup, which will also bug me should I ever be successful at getting syrup out of my own trees. :-\

I looked up a ton of info one time on making syrup. One thing I did find out was that it didnt necessarily have to be sugar maples. One farm was making it out of shagbark hickory with pretty good success.

Go to the old Kentucky Fried Chicken and pick you up a pack of their 'honey' and read the label. HFCS with just a touch of honey added
Title: Re: Sugar free honey
Post by: winginit on August 25, 2010, 10:27:41 AM
Um, I frequently get sick when I eat at KFC. Don't know why. Food tastes good but everything just looks dirty. And fake honey? I grew up on KFC but it seems that they've lost their way.
Title: Re: Sugar free honey
Post by: AllenF on August 25, 2010, 10:06:46 PM
I tend to just stick to chicken and mac n cheese when I am at KFC, but today I did get some of their honey sauce to look at it.   I was really surprised that they even put honey in it at all.   I guess there was too much fallout over calling it honey with no honey in it. 
Title: Re: Sugar free honey
Post by: melliphile on August 26, 2010, 03:16:47 PM
The only use I could see of "sugar free honey" is maybe for diabetics who really need a fix. Still, High fructose corn syrup is still a sugar, right?
Title: Re: Sugar free honey
Post by: AllenF on August 26, 2010, 03:36:14 PM
Good question.  Corn sugar is sugar.  I did a search for sugar free honey and found lots of products online.   A lot were for diabetics.  Here are the ingredients for one.   Maltitol syrup, natural and artificial flavor, acesulfame K, malic acid.   The other one had these ingredients.  Xylitol, spring water, xanthan gum, natural honey flavor, citric acid, sorbic acid.  And it only has 19 cals per Tbsp. 

By the way, how does one get natural honey flavor in the imitation honey?
Title: Re: Sugar free honey
Post by: luvin honey on August 26, 2010, 10:17:39 PM
Sounds nasty!

Yes, HCFS is pure sugar.

AllenF--probably the same way McDonald's flavors its food: Food science with chemicals.
Title: Re: Sugar free honey
Post by: hankdog1 on August 26, 2010, 10:45:57 PM
Now i may be wrong here but i thought that people with sugar problems could eat a small amount of honey.  Due to the fact that it's easier to break down then other sugars.  You guys talk about using chemicals in food watched a program on planet green while i was channel surfing.  Saw one show where they used a chemical to make lemons taste sweet. 
Title: Re: Sugar free honey
Post by: beee farmer on August 26, 2010, 11:56:01 PM
Quote from: greenbtree on August 25, 2010, 12:58:24 AM
Sugar free honey - definitely a contradiction in terms.  I bought some baklava at Sams Club once - awful stuff - should of read the label first, the main ingredient was high fructose corn syrup.  Some things should be against the law.

JC

My wife made Baklava for X mas last year... used almost a Pt of honey... lordy lordy lordy it was good! think it could be the best use of honey so far.  Isn't sugar free honey an oxymoron  :?
Title: Re: Sugar free honey
Post by: winginit on August 27, 2010, 09:59:55 AM
Quote from: AllenF on August 26, 2010, 03:36:14 PM
By the way, how does one get natural honey flavor in the imitation honey?

Chemicals are used to flavor many (most) processed foods. One executive from a chemical company bragged that McDonalds would have no flavor if it weren't for their chemicals. When you see "natural flavors" on an ingredients label, it's chemicals. Here's an example of the level of sophistication that goes into helping you never taste anything bitter again in your life (unless you eat real food):

http://www.wildflavors.com/?page_ID=D7E976EE-0FF1-AD8C-DD831484BC1D74A4 (http://www.wildflavors.com/?page_ID=D7E976EE-0FF1-AD8C-DD831484BC1D74A4)

Title: Re: Sugar free honey
Post by: rgy on August 27, 2010, 11:34:08 AM
There are is a growing theory that HFCS may be the CAUSE of increasing youth diabetics.  I would think, along with others, that HFCS is the worst thing a diabetic cold eat.
Title: Re: Sugar free honey
Post by: AllenF on August 27, 2010, 02:00:18 PM
A diabetic can not eat HFCS.   It is corn sugar.
Title: Re: Sugar free honey
Post by: luvin honey on August 27, 2010, 02:18:37 PM
Ooooohhhh....baclava!!
Title: Re: Sugar free honey
Post by: greenbtree on August 27, 2010, 04:39:17 PM
Yeah, I have a real weakness for baklava - I don't know if I want to find a good recipe so I can make it myself or not - I would probably end up weighing 300 pounds :-D
Title: Re: Sugar free honey
Post by: luvin honey on August 27, 2010, 04:49:53 PM
That is awesome stuff. I buy the phyllo dough, and there's a recipe on the back. Or you can find it on allrecipes.com. With a little lemon zest added to the honey-sugar-water sauce, it is incredible! I made a couple pans last year but am still nowhere near 300 lb :D I'll see if I can remedy that this year. Just got a quart of beautiful clover honey from my friend... mmmmmm....
Title: Re: Sugar free honey
Post by: beee farmer on August 28, 2010, 12:30:37 AM
Quote from: luvin honey on August 27, 2010, 04:49:53 PM
That is awesome stuff. I buy the phyllo dough, and there's a recipe on the back. Or you can find it on allrecipes.com. With a little lemon zest added to the honey-sugar-water sauce, it is incredible! I made a couple pans last year but am still nowhere near 300 lb :D I'll see if I can remedy that this year. Just got a quart of beautiful clover honey from my friend... mmmmmm....
HUMMMM ... that lemon zest sounds good... going in the next batch... Ithink we gonna make it Thanksgiving...cant wait till Christmas "drool"
Title: Re: Sugar free honey
Post by: Kathyp on August 28, 2010, 11:15:52 AM
it's not hard to make, but i can't do it.  i eat it all.  once you have made your own, you can't buy the store stuff anymore.
Title: Re: Sugar free honey
Post by: luvin honey on August 29, 2010, 07:48:31 PM
Quote from: kathyp on August 28, 2010, 11:15:52 AM
it's not hard to make, but i can't do it.  i eat it all.  once you have made your own, you can't buy the store stuff anymore.
It is a big problem :D I stuck the entire batch in the freezer, but that barely slowed me down. I would just pry out a piece and enjoy it partially frozen. There is no such thing as bad baklava!
Title: Re: Sugar free honey
Post by: beee farmer on August 30, 2010, 12:27:35 AM
its great straight out of the freezer...best part is you get to savore it longer as a peice lasts about twice as long/ :-P