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Title: formic acid vaporizer
Post by: ivashka on September 28, 2010, 01:39:43 AM
Hi there, I've got a question.  How many minutes or seconds of one gram of formic acid should I vaporize each colony?  Vaporizer that I'm using is the one that I'm attaching a picture of.  I've been searching on youtube and whole bunch of other websites, some are using it for 2 1/2 minutes and others up to 15 minutes.  What do you suggest?
Thanks a lot.
http://media.photobucket.com/image/acid%20vaporizer/kjbann/Bees/Equipment/Oxalic%20acid%20vaporizer/IMG_1419.jpg (http://media.photobucket.com/image/acid%20vaporizer/kjbann/Bees/Equipment/Oxalic%20acid%20vaporizer/IMG_1419.jpg)
Title: Re: formic acid vaporizer
Post by: rdy-b on September 28, 2010, 01:49:33 AM
        oxalic acid- 8-)  till its gone-RDY-B
Title: Re: formic acid vaporizer
Post by: hardwood on September 28, 2010, 07:22:15 AM
Oxalic acid is applied at 1 gram per deep hive body.

Scott
Title: Re: formic acid vaporizer
Post by: danno on September 28, 2010, 09:20:10 AM
as stated this is a oxailic acid burner not formic.   Time will vary from 1 to 3 minutes.   What you should do is a trial run out of a hive.  Set it up down wind, plug it in and watch your watch.   Mine will burn completely in 2 minutes
Title: Re: formic acid vaporizer
Post by: dennis2021 on September 28, 2010, 11:30:20 AM
Quote from: hardwood on September 28, 2010, 07:22:15 AM
Oxalic acid is applied at 1 gram per deep hive body.

Scott

Scott, this is what I may have seen that I was trying to tell you about....lol
Title: Re: formic acid vaporizer
Post by: hardwood on September 28, 2010, 11:38:07 AM
Gotcha Dennis!

Scott
Title: Re: formic acid vaporizer
Post by: ivashka on September 28, 2010, 12:36:56 PM
If I have 2 deep body hives, does it mean i need to do 2 grams?
Title: Re: formic acid vaporizer
Post by: hardwood on September 28, 2010, 12:41:59 PM
Yes

Scott
Title: Re: formic acid vaporizer
Post by: ivashka on September 30, 2010, 02:45:20 AM
First of all, thank you all for your replies.

Another question:  When you do this treatment is hive suppose to be 100% broodless or can their be some? 

I have one hive that has about 200 verona mites per day, and 2 others that are less than 100 a day.  Would I need to treat all 3 of them or the one that has the most?

Thanks again.
Title: Re: formic acid vaporizer
Post by: danno on September 30, 2010, 08:45:17 AM
you do 3 treatments 7 days apart with brood.  Oxalic does not penetrate cappings so 3 treatment are nessesary.   
Title: Re: formic acid vaporizer
Post by: hardwood on September 30, 2010, 09:02:52 AM
Ditto what danno said. We never have a complete break in the brood cycle here in FL but I do try to treat in Dec/Jan when the brood is at it's least. With 200 mites a day I would hit them now.

Scott
Title: Re: formic acid vaporizer
Post by: cam on September 30, 2010, 07:36:45 PM
My vaporizer takes about 1 minute for 2 grams. I would treat all 3 hives immediately with that kind of mite count.