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Title: Trying to figure out what happened.
Post by: Bigfoot on February 26, 2011, 06:49:57 PM
I have a friend who lost a hive this winter and he was asking me what I thought happened. I have included a picture of one of the frames, a small cluster of bees are at the top of this frame and the frame was in the center of the bottom super. I told him to me it looks like they starved but I told him I would post it on this forum and ask other bee keepers what they thought happened. also the brood looked liked they just dried up and turned white, just a quick note... he harvested honey from the hive in November of 2010 which seems to me might have been a little late in the season to do. That only left the bees with one deep and one medium, any thoughts from fellow bee keepers would be appreciated. We live in northeastern NC.
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Title: Re: Trying to figure out what happened.
Post by: buzzbee on February 26, 2011, 06:52:18 PM
Send the pic to
[email protected]
and they will be posted for you.Just be sure to add what forum post they need attached to.
Title: Re: Trying to figure out what happened.
Post by: AllenF on February 26, 2011, 10:25:36 PM
How much honey was in the hive.  Looks like in the pic there was honey on the frame.  Bees can freeze on a frame with honey or close to honey if there are not enough number of bees to heat themselves and keep them from freezing.  Low numbers can be the result of a whole bunch of reasons.  Bad queen, no queen, mites, disease, taxes, you name it.
Title: Re: Trying to figure out what happened.
Post by: rdy-b on February 26, 2011, 10:49:22 PM
that hive went queenless-im suprised it did not go drone-RDY-B
Title: Re: Trying to figure out what happened.
Post by: Bigfoot on February 26, 2011, 11:57:22 PM
Quote from: AllenF on February 26, 2011, 10:25:36 PM
How much honey was in the hive.  Looks like in the pic there was honey on the frame.  Bees can freeze on a frame with honey or close to honey if there are not enough number of bees to heat themselves and keep them from freezing.  Low numbers can be the result of a whole bunch of reasons.  Bad queen, no queen, mites, disease, taxes, you name it.
When we checked what was left of the hive today there was maybe 5 medium frames that had honey in them, but what was left of the bees were on the deep frames... we did find bees in the cells head first but they were dead. There was also maybe 4 or 5 queen cells made.
Title: Re: Trying to figure out what happened.
Post by: Robo on February 27, 2011, 09:33:03 AM
What was the history of the queen?   Looks like plenty of stores, but a dwindled cluster.
Title: Re: Trying to figure out what happened.
Post by: BjornBee on February 27, 2011, 10:49:35 AM
For what it is worth....

Same thing happened as the last time with a new member with one or two posts and pictures from image shack was used. I clicked on the image to get a better shot and every warning in my system went wild.  

I now have all kinds of security warnings going off and I can't keep up with the pop-ups. I tried everything. So now my 911 geek was called.

Just a heads up to others.
Title: Re: Trying to figure out what happened.
Post by: Kathyp on February 27, 2011, 12:06:07 PM
same thing here.  i won't even look at image shack pics and i won't use the program.  i have no idea what it's doing but it sets off windows 7 like crazy.
Title: Re: Trying to figure out what happened.
Post by: buzzbee on February 27, 2011, 12:10:18 PM
I think it may be a windows seven thing. i posted the image for this .It went through a couple virus scans in my email and when I downloaded it from the mail server. imageshack may be playing havoc with your spam blockers I suspect. the photo is probably clean.
Hi security levels make typical ad sponsored places like image shack set off warnings.
i use firefox with adbloc plus so the ads don't even make it past the browser interface.All I see is a slot where it says advertisement mosst times if I see anything at all.
Title: Re: Trying to figure out what happened.
Post by: Kathyp on February 27, 2011, 12:27:12 PM
it's a windows defender thing in 7.  blocking 3rd party cookies helps.
Title: Re: Trying to figure out what happened.
Post by: buzzbee on February 27, 2011, 12:35:53 PM
I sent a note to imageshack. lets see if they respond.
Title: Re: Trying to figure out what happened.
Post by: FRAMEshift on February 27, 2011, 03:05:20 PM
Just for informational purposes, I run Linux and I never have any problems with viruses, popups, or anything else.  :-D  I looked at the image shack photos with no problem.
Title: Re: Trying to figure out what happened.
Post by: Bee Happy on February 27, 2011, 04:25:47 PM
frame, I'm running linux as an amateur and still getting popups (definitely fodder for a new topic in the comp forum)
anyway - I thought I saw open brood in the pic, "C" shaped larvae in a large ring around the center of the frame. - need more seasoned opinions on this too, but I'm not sure the small cluster can manage all the larvae - are they bundled up around more brood and a queen cell?
Title: Re: Trying to figure out what happened.
Post by: Kathyp on February 27, 2011, 05:29:18 PM
disabling 3rd party cookies helped a lot.  i'm looking at that bit of brood on the 2nd pic and thinking chalkbrood.  any mummies on the bottom board or around the hive?  they tend to clean those out pretty well until they run out of workers to do it. 

not the greatest angle into the cells so i won't hazard a guess on that one.
Title: Re: Trying to figure out what happened.
Post by: Tommyt on February 27, 2011, 09:00:02 PM
I got a Email from a web master tonight about Image Shack carrying a bad virus and they had to revamp their
page and was sending out a note to say no-one could use it on the page.They would put their own host up but it would run very limited pictures

Here I found the Email but it say's last week

QuoteThanks for being a part of the Online Gun Community, especiallyXXXXX. We here at XXXXjust wanted to inform you of some new software we implemented today.
Imageshack which is a popular image hosting website was struck with a virus a few weeks back which made many of their images send out some harmful code to everyone who viewed their images. We had to implement some quick actions to help control that outbreak and Imageshack got it taken care of as well.
Based on this outbreak we thought it necessary to implement a new Image Hosting solution that would be controlled by Cast Boolits, we call it simply "Image Hosting". It's similar to how Imageshack hosts their images in that, your images can be uploaded to OUR server, and the software gives you all the code you need to post these images on our website as well as on other websites and forums.
Based on Bandwidth requirements we have to implement a system to help control how many images we host as well.  We already have a subscription system in place on XXXXXXXwhich can be found here