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Title: Queenless swarm
Post by: millermann1972 on May 11, 2011, 11:50:20 AM
   Hello , been a while fellow beeks. well i got a swarm call the other day and the guy says they have been there for two days so i go shake them in a box and they go in like allways. I let the box set there for a day and go get it at night and bring it home. i wait a day and check and no eggs and no queen so i have a extra one so i put her in and wait three days. I back in the hive again yesterday afternoon and the queen cage had dropped to the bottom with the screen facing down and now i have a laying worker. i looked at one frame and its eggs piled everywhere so i am sure i don't have a queen so i am guessing they will not except the queen that i have installed :'(. should i shake the bees away from the hive and let them come back and try the queen again or what? at a loss. Thanks for any input on my screw up :shock:
Title: Re: Queenless swarm
Post by: iddee on May 11, 2011, 12:34:53 PM
7 days, counting the two they were in the tree? I think that is a mighty short time for laying workers to develop. I would rather think a newly mated queen who hasn't gotten the hang of it yet. I would give them about 4 more days before shaking out.
Title: Re: Queenless swarm
Post by: millermann1972 on May 11, 2011, 12:52:51 PM
hello iddee , the time in the tree is not really known just going by the guy i got them swarm from. the main reason i think a laying worker is the amount of eggs deposited in the cells. i mean looks like she put them in with a bazooka ,eggs every where and have read on her that was a sign. thanks for your imput i might just be overthinking lol   ps have used your trap out techniques and have had very good success!  :)
Title: Re: Queenless swarm
Post by: iddee on May 11, 2011, 02:03:31 PM
If there are many eggs in the bottom of the cells, it's likely a new queen. If up on the walls of the cells, it's likely laying workers.

Glad the traps are working.
Title: Re: Queenless swarm
Post by: AllenF on May 11, 2011, 07:37:48 PM
A week is to soon for laying workers.   A virgin queen swarm sounds like what you got.  Give her some time and she will figure it out.
Title: Re: Queenless swarm
Post by: millermann1972 on May 12, 2011, 09:33:08 AM
well checked again this mornin and looks like yall are correct the new queen must have been miss fireing :-D. looks like she has got her stuff together and laying one egg per cell and placed perfect on the bottom  :) thanks for the imput :)