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Title: Questions on an odd Smoker fuel.
Post by: splitrock on June 16, 2011, 10:41:51 PM
Met a guy (commercial beek) who uses alfalfa pellets soaked in diesel fuel in his smoker. Claims it works real well. Is this a common practice?

Can it be good for the bee's, brood, comb and honey?????........... Make for an interesting flavor I bet.

Title: Re: Questions on an odd Smoker fuel.
Post by: iddee on June 16, 2011, 11:00:47 PM
Heat a paint room with diesel fuel and watch the paint fisheye. He is eating diesel fuel along with his honey. It really doesn't sound like something I want to do.
Title: Re: Questions on an odd Smoker fuel.
Post by: AllenF on June 16, 2011, 11:11:02 PM
Ya, it don't sound so good to do.
Title: Re: Questions on an odd Smoker fuel.
Post by: antaro on June 17, 2011, 12:23:40 AM
I sure wouldn't burn diesel in my smoker.
Title: Re: Questions on an odd Smoker fuel.
Post by: schawee on June 17, 2011, 01:05:52 AM
i would never burn diesel in my smoker.i can't stand the smell of it.      ...schawee
Title: Re: Questions on an odd Smoker fuel.
Post by: joebrown on June 17, 2011, 01:11:28 AM
I can see using pellets but not the diesel. I have heard pellets burn well and they can be made out of anything if you have a pellet mill.
Title: Re: Questions on an odd Smoker fuel.
Post by: Anybrew on June 17, 2011, 02:08:09 AM
Stuff that!
Title: Re: Questions on an odd Smoker fuel.
Post by: splitrock on June 17, 2011, 06:56:29 AM
 Kind of what I thought, nobody thinks it is a good idea.

I was thinking he could AT LEAST use a soy diesel. javascript:void(0);.........That at least has a french fry aroma instead of the exhaust smell.

It bothers me that he knows how many things the bee's have working against them, and yet he fumigates them with another poison.
Title: Re: Questions on an odd Smoker fuel.
Post by: Tommyt on June 17, 2011, 09:08:11 AM
I thought years ago people used oil soaked rags or burlap with oil on it.
I would use both with-out the oil


Tommyt

Title: Re: Questions on an odd Smoker fuel.
Post by: Michael Bush on June 17, 2011, 09:16:19 AM
Why not just spray diesel on them... I'm sure the alfalfa pellets would work, minus the diesel...
Title: Re: Questions on an odd Smoker fuel.
Post by: sc-bee on June 17, 2011, 12:14:28 PM
What's the name of that unique flavored honey he has such a market for :?
Title: Re: Questions on an odd Smoker fuel.
Post by: Brian D. Bray on June 20, 2011, 04:43:54 PM
A few items can be used as an accelerant for starting your smoker but you would want something that would burn off rapidly such as starter fluid or charcoal llighter.  Deisel would remain in the smoker fuel and poison both the bees and the honey.

Alfalfa pellets and wood pellets both work well for smoker fuel and neither needs additional combustion aides.  Other good  fuels are burlap bags (aka gunny sacks), sisel based baling twine, and dryer lint makes a good tinder to start the smoker with.

The secret to keeping your smoker lit is to lay in on its side, lite it, and let it burn for a few minutes (like while you put on your suit and veil and get your other tools ready) to heat the chimney of the smoker enough to help keep the fuel smoldering once the lid is closed.  If necessary add fresh fuel to the smoke just before closing the lid, the new fuel will actually cool the smoke a little as too hot of smoke can make the bees testy.