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Title: Removing bees from tree
Post by: oblib on March 12, 2012, 03:23:12 PM
 I was out in garage today working on swarm traps when son-in-law pulls in. Says "oh yeah I forgot to tell you but I know where there are bees living in a tree". I was thinking at a thousand miles an hr about trapouts and such while we continue talking.

It seems these bees are living outside a tree not in it. They have lots of comb and a basketball size cluster according to SIL. No way its a swarm so it must have overwintered in the tree, thank goodness for the mild winter. So now I'm thinking cutout, well cutoff, but had a question.

Today is warm and windy as in 70 degrees and  20mph with 30 mph gusts. Tomorrow is supposed to be 5mph winds and 72. Should I wait until tomorrow to do it or is today ok. I really want them bees :).
Title: Re: Removing bees from tree
Post by: beyondthesidewalks on March 12, 2012, 03:45:16 PM
Assuming you'll be on a ladder, I'd wait until tomorrow if it was me.  Just a safety thing.  Might be better for the brood also.  Please tell us how it went.
Title: Re: Removing bees from tree
Post by: AllenF on March 12, 2012, 04:53:52 PM
Something to think about, half the hive could be inside the tree they have just expanded to the outside.    Just something I have run into.   90 percent of the bees were inside when I went to cut them out.  Trap out at that point.
Title: Re: Removing bees from tree
Post by: oblib on March 12, 2012, 05:47:59 PM
I went and looked at it. About 50 foot up in a tree and a basketball or so size of combs. I was right about it not being a swarm from this year and he was wrong about there being bees in the comb :(

Must have been a swarm from last year and they built up but then died in the winter. I'm going to hang a trap in that tree though. If thats the best they could find in that area my trap should look mighty good to any swarms this year.
Title: Re: Removing bees from tree
Post by: AllenF on March 12, 2012, 05:53:27 PM
Sounds like a plan.
Title: Re: Removing bees from tree
Post by: BlueBee on March 13, 2012, 12:58:48 AM
This might be a blessing in disguise.  A tree, 50 feet up, a ladder, and a bee keeper sounds like a bad combination to me  :-D

I know it's great to catch wild bees, but it's really so much easier to multiply and divide existing bees.
Title: Re: Removing bees from tree
Post by: oblib on March 13, 2012, 10:35:51 AM
Yeah, as we were driving up and I saw the comb I knew there was no way I was going up a ladder. I would have rented a lift.

I had a 20ft fall from a ladder about 5yr ago that resutled in tib/fib and humerus fractures. All 3 were within 3in of the joints and needed surgury plus almost a yr to heal. I no longer climb ladders that are not perfectly stable because it seems I can no longer flap my arms fast enough to slow the descent enough to prevent injury :-D
Title: Re: Removing bees from tree
Post by: rbinhood on March 13, 2012, 09:21:05 PM
Tree climbing spikes and a safety belt/harness is better than a ladder any day, use rope to pull box up once you are up the tree and secure.
Title: Re: Removing bees from tree
Post by: Country Heart on March 14, 2012, 12:07:41 AM
Quote from: oblib on March 13, 2012, 10:35:51 AM
I no longer climb ladders that are not perfectly stable because it seems I can no longer flap my arms fast enough to slow the descent enough to prevent injury :-D

  Nice visual   :)
Title: Re: Removing bees from tree
Post by: oblib on March 14, 2012, 01:27:53 AM
I've been thinking about this all evening. Just doing math in my head. At 7lbs of honey to make 1lb of comb I could probably pay for the cost of the lift to cut the comb off. Stay with me here I'm trying to talk myself into it   :evil:

So how many lbs of comb in a nest about the size of a basketball? I could then multiply that by 7 and then again by $5 to come up with lift money; Plus I could add in the good feelings I would have from saving some future swarm from moving onto that comb only to perish this winter.  ;)
Title: Re: Removing bees from tree
Post by: BlueBee on March 14, 2012, 01:33:36 AM
Sorry, I'm still imaging you flapping your arms as gravity calls  :-D and how much the hospital bill is going to be  :(
Title: Re: Removing bees from tree
Post by: JackM on March 14, 2012, 08:31:01 AM
Yep, I can see the flapping arms, and the broken leg
Title: Re: Removing bees from tree
Post by: Country Heart on March 14, 2012, 08:03:25 PM
Quote from: oblib on March 14, 2012, 01:27:53 AM
I've been thinking about this all evening. Just doing math in my head. At 7lbs of honey to make 1lb of comb I could probably pay for the cost of the lift to cut the comb off. Stay with me here I'm trying to talk myself into it   :evil:

So how many lbs of comb in a nest about the size of a basketball? I could then multiply that by 7 and then again by $5 to come up with lift money; Plus I could add in the good feelings I would have from saving some future swarm from moving onto that comb only to perish this winter.  ;)

This sounds a lot like the bee version of "chicken math" - glad some of my acquired skills can be applied across various species.   :)