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Title: prepare for sandy! knot tying class..
Post by: adamant on October 27, 2012, 03:35:48 PM
well i tried to tie down my hives on the pallet with rope with out luck! did the truckers hitch knot but just cant get it! i see hives so neatly tied down efficiently with rope but i cant just get it!

for those of u that use rope, what knot do u use?
Title: Re: prepare for sandy! knot tying class..
Post by: hardwood on October 27, 2012, 03:56:28 PM
Bee knot (trucker's hitch) should work well...I use it all the time to tie hives to my flat bed when moving them.

Scott
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Post by: Kathyp on October 27, 2012, 04:01:42 PM
same.  or ratchet straps. 
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Post by: BrentX on October 27, 2012, 04:07:51 PM
Truckers hitch or midshipmens hitch.  Knots roll off my fingers like a sailor...but that's another story.
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Post by: carlfaba10t on October 27, 2012, 04:35:18 PM
Well i can tie truckers knot but in your case i would recommend buying the small inexpensive rachet straps so much easier.   ;)
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Post by: Caelansbees on October 28, 2012, 01:49:23 AM
Walmart had ratchet straps cheaper than decent rope....

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Post by: kingbee on October 28, 2012, 02:48:01 AM
Harbor Freight has 15 foot ratchet straps 4 for (I think) less than 10 dollars.
http://www.harborfreight.com/4-piece-ratcheting-tie-down-and-buckle-set-93109.html (http://www.harborfreight.com/4-piece-ratcheting-tie-down-and-buckle-set-93109.html)

I have faith in you. In the time it takes to program your GPS to find the store, you can learn to tie the truckers hitch in 5 seconds or less.  There is a right as well a wrong way to tie it.  If you tie it upside down or backwards, the loop will slip and close up when you try to cinch the free end tight.  Hope this helps.  It may help if you think of it as a poormans block and tackle.  It is always tied after one end is secured to the truck bed or what ever you want to secure the load to.  The belly of the rope is passed over the load and the lose end is either run over, under, around, or through the tiedown point before you make the loop or hitch. 

http://www.backpacker.com/skills-how-to-tie-a-quick-release-truckers-hitch/slideshows/115?position=1 (http://www.backpacker.com/skills-how-to-tie-a-quick-release-truckers-hitch/slideshows/115?position=1)
Title: Re: prepare for sandy! knot tying class..
Post by: Michael Bush on October 28, 2012, 09:08:28 AM
It is only the tension that holds a truckers knot together.  Remove the tension and it falls apart.  That is the whole idea... :)
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Post by: beekeeper120 on October 28, 2012, 05:42:14 PM
hehe,  knots Im having flashbacks from my old Navy Days..on a lighter note here is a post I posted on another topic,, AFter going through several hurricaines I can tell you, alot of the nervousness is you..the bees already are working on taking care of thier house and dont think they are worrying to much :)

Heres a repost...

I have been through several hurricanes with winds ranging from 75-105 MPH,  Out of the 10 hives I run and access to several hundred, I have only lost 1 top cover and seen 2 hives out of all of them get damaged from the storm.  The real danger is the rain/flooding and debris.  Pick up things around your yard and your neighbors and you should be set.  I was thinking about tieing my hives down but an old beekeeper that has been around for 60 years told me not to worry,  The hives will be fine..AFter biting my nails leading up to the storm and then during the storm I wont lie, I lost some sleep.   But when its over I went out side and to my suprise only lost 1 top during 1 storm and none on the other.   

The bees will sense the drop in pressure and start propolising down the hive. AS long as you did not go into the hives with in the last few days you will be fine.  IF you are in a flood area,.,,close the lower entrence with a reducer make a temp upper and let the bees glue it all down.  You can also get some sand bags and place around your hives..This will give you several inches of breathing room for flooding.

Good luck up there
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Post by: Caelansbees on November 14, 2012, 11:58:33 PM
One guy from our club lost three hive to a big tree.  He was able to salvage them together with one queen.  Frankenstorm made a Frankenhive.  He says they are doing okay, we will see about how they fare thru the winter thou. 
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Post by: kdm on November 15, 2012, 11:33:21 AM
What trucker knots i have seen are sheep shanks.