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Title: what to do with all these cedar trees.
Post by: bobby on December 06, 2005, 10:09:51 PM
hello,  i'm trying to figure out what i need to do. i have 13 acres of pretty much solid cedar trees, they are mostly about 5 inch round. the people i talked to at the saw mill will only give $1.25 a peice. i even thought about buying a portable saw mill, but i'm not sure. i'm gonna have the land cleared with a bulldozer in a year or so. i'd hate to just push them up and burn them. any good ideas would be appreciated.
Title: what to do with all these cedar trees.
Post by: leominsterbeeman on December 06, 2005, 10:36:20 PM
For Christmas time a lot places sell cedar roping for decorating around the house.  Can some one use them for this.  it's like a $45 for 10 yards of cedar roping.   A lot better than $1.25 a tree.
Title: what to do with all these cedar trees.
Post by: qa33010 on December 07, 2005, 02:57:07 AM
What is/are cedar roping?
Title: what to do with all these cedar trees.
Post by: Michael Bush on December 07, 2005, 07:40:49 AM
They make nice fence posts and nice Christmas trees.
Title: what to do with all these cedar trees.
Post by: TwT on December 07, 2005, 08:52:12 AM
Quote from: leominsterbeemanFor Christmas time a lot places sell cedar roping for decorating around the house.  Can some one use them for this.  it's like a $45 for 10 yards of cedar roping.   A lot better than $1.25 a tree.

I also would like to know what "cedar roping" is??
Title: what to do with all these cedar trees.
Post by: amymcg on December 07, 2005, 09:20:31 AM
If I have to guess, I think it's probably similar to pine roping, where the parts of the branch with the foliage is taken off and attached together to make a "rope" or garland that can be used to decorate mantels, door frames, fences, etc. . .

Is that correct Michael?
Title: what to do with all these cedar trees.
Post by: Jay on December 07, 2005, 08:32:23 PM
Quote from: qa33010What is/are cedar roping?

Cedar Roping
Title: what to do with all these cedar trees.
Post by: bobby on December 07, 2005, 10:07:25 PM
good ideas, but i'm not very good at crafts and such. the sapwood on fence posts would rot in the ground, and they would be loose. i would rather come up with a million dollar idea to make enough money to buy me some treated posts for a fence. i thoght today about buying a used sawmill and lathe. and making walking sticks and maybe some smaller items like bird feeders or something. thanks for the ideas ,keep'em coming.
Title: what to do with all these cedar trees.
Post by: TREBOR on December 08, 2005, 12:07:30 AM
cut them into 8 foot lengths stack'em up
put an ad in the local paper for 5 bucks ea.
when someone calls tell them you'll reduce the price
if they buy them all

or
 
 fence posts!
Title: what to do with all these cedar trees.
Post by: fuzzybeekeeper on January 09, 2006, 05:43:46 PM
Bobby,

I don't know about Tenn, but here in Texas cedar posts hold up LOTS of miles of barbed wire.  Fences made out of cedar posts last 50 years.  I have never seen one rot in the ground.  The "sap" is what preserves them.  We have truckloads of cedar posts and no end in site.

Believe me, if someone could find a good use for cedar trees, they could make more than a million.

Are you near a metropolitan area?  Talk to a nursery and see if you can set up a "split rail" TYPE of fence made out of ceder posts.  Don't split them, but like a split rail.  Straight or zigzag them.  The city folks like that country type look.  Give them a commission on what they can sell.  Try talking to landscapers.

Just a few ideas from a state that has just as many cedar trees as you do.  In fact, when I was a kid we called the folkes who lived in the hills "cedar choppers" cause that's what they did for a living!

Fuzzybeekeeper
Title: what to do with all these cedar trees.
Post by: leominsterbeeman on January 17, 2006, 01:52:45 PM
Back to cedar roping.    I've been away for a while.  It is just as Amy describes.    Now that it's January,  the demand will be less, but you could get ready to sell it by next November.

 If you want a picture.  Try this:

1.  Go to google.com
2. Select Images
3.  Type "Cedar Roping" in the box and low and behold many
 pictures of Cedar Roping.
Title: what to do with all these cedar trees.
Post by: Robo on January 17, 2006, 04:25:06 PM
Sell them as grilling planks.   They get like $15 for a 1x6x12 for grilling fish.  Just come up with some creative marketing and you could be rich.
Title: what to do with all these cedar trees.
Post by: Tito on February 25, 2006, 06:01:40 PM
you can turn it into kinling wood and sell it on ebay -or- you could list the wood on ebay for pen blanks and crafts.  I bet you will be surprised by the response you get.
Title: jewelry boxes
Post by: billruble on March 13, 2006, 07:42:28 PM
I made hundreds of jewelry boxes out of cedar and also some cedar chests.  Of course, I did have a small shop that I worked in full time and that helped lots.

I even made some beach chaires out of cedar, but they were not as nice as the oak ones.   I'd love to have some of those if I were closer to you, but I am in Iowa.
Title: blowing off steam
Post by: DBoire on June 09, 2006, 09:11:30 PM
I've been lurking because I have the same "problem".  Cedar fence post do rot in damp ground (here in the NE USA)  I have 5" posts that were put in the ground summer 1994 and stand only because the grape vines hold them up.  Come on people, someone on the planet must know what to do with medium sized cedar :cry: .  Young, that is less that 6' can be cut for oil, I spent many summers doing that.  > 6" perhaps lumbar if you can find it not split, 3" - 5" posts and rails.  Strangley (sp?) enouph my son, age 10, asked :shock: to spend some time cutting out cedar brush "up at the farm" for fun this summer.  If he was my neighbor I could charge him :roll: and create a camp for city kids.  It could be like the old time "hop picking" vacations the rich folks used to take here in NY.
Title: what to do with all these cedar trees.
Post by: qa33010 on June 10, 2006, 02:43:39 AM
Are they too small for lumber for small projects (ie... knick-knack shadow boards, doll houses and furniture, small chests for young ladies and little girls, cutout christmas or other seasonal ornaments...ect)?  Or are they too large for that, or do you need special equipment to cut it or plane it down for cutting?
Title: what to do with all these cedar trees.
Post by: melliphile on June 15, 2006, 12:42:07 AM
Actually, cedar is very rot resistant. It  would make great fence posts.   As for buning, it has alot of tar and therefore alot of creosote.  Best bet would be to save some for yourself, sell it if you think it may be worth it, but most of it will probably be burned.  I've cleared a few lots that were covered in cedar like you descibe.
Title: CEDAR TREES,
Post by: queenb64 on July 08, 2006, 07:50:41 PM
WE USE THEM FOR FENCES, SHEDS, WE EVEN LAY THEM ALONG THE CHICKEN WIRE FENCE AND NAIL THE FENCE TO THE CEDAR, KEEPS THE FENCE  SECURE AND ANYTHING FROM PUSHING IT UP, NEXT WE WILL MAKE A DECK OUT OF THEM. ALSO USED THEM AROUND THE DOG  YARD AND THE PIG YARD. WE BELIEVE IN USING  WHAT WE CAN, AND SPEND LESS.
Title: what to do with all these cedar trees.
Post by: KingBeeApiary on July 09, 2006, 12:58:57 PM
I'd buy the portable sawmill and build hives out of them.Plus sell some extra to the mills.
I work in a custom millwork shop and we use cedar all the time and it does bring a hefty price.
I would not waste this material,if you don't want the hassel of cutting it then please find someone that will and not waste it.
Yes you may call me a tree hugger of sorts.I'm an asst. Scoutmastr for a local troop,I'm a trained Leave no trace trainer and an avid hiker/camper.
But also a realist.
Title: what to do with all these cedar trees.
Post by: hiptfarms on August 02, 2006, 10:26:19 PM
Cut them into fence posts and treat the bottoms with a preservative like creosote, salt, or linseed oil.  They won't last forever but they will outlast CCA treated posts.  

Another option - use them for for teepee posts.  They also are bendable and make good sweatlodge uprights.  

You could rent a chipper/shredder and make dog bedding fill material and mulch for landscaping.

BEST ADVICE - cut in the winter.  They will last longer as posts and you won't itch nearly as much.  Good luck!
Title: Re: what to do with all these cedar trees.
Post by: beekeeperookie on December 17, 2006, 09:37:57 AM
I would make cedar storage chest boxes for the foot of the bed, and of course you can make beehive boxes, then stain them. :)
Title: Re: what to do with all these cedar trees.
Post by: mick on December 18, 2006, 02:44:33 AM
How about letting them grow for your superanuation, or is that as big as they get?