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Title: Anyone use this formula for bee health?
Post by: Better.to.Bee.than.not on May 28, 2013, 12:11:07 PM
here is a video from Don (the fat bee man), on a bee health formula, does anyone use it specifically?:
and for the life of me I cannot hear him clearly, is it 1 t tea tree oil as the first ingredient?
I believe the rest of the formula is 1 t winter green oil, 1 t spearmint oil, 10 drops lemongrass oil. and then blend it for 5 minutes to emulsify and 1 cup of it is mixed with 2 gallons of water.

http://youtu.be/gmGcIm-jd8E (http://youtu.be/gmGcIm-jd8E)

Title: Re: Anyone use this formula for bee health?
Post by: Just5398 on May 28, 2013, 12:25:59 PM
i didn't know you could make your own but yes, tee tree oil is the first ingredient.

Title: Re: Anyone use this formula for bee health?
Post by: danno on May 28, 2013, 12:28:46 PM
dont forget the Lecithin Powder for a emulsifier or the oils wont mix in
Title: Re: Anyone use this formula for bee health?
Post by: JWChesnut on May 28, 2013, 12:30:20 PM
Use lecithin to emulsify the oils.  Otherwise, they just rise to surface of the container.
Lecithin is obtainable at health food stores, and on the nutritional supplement aisle of many other stores.
I blend mine to really, really fine powder, typically from the store it is coarse-crumbly.

I suspect lecithin would spoil on storage, so I mix small batches, and use within a week.

Lecithin has a fat-soluble end of the molecule, and a polar end that absorbs/attaches to water.  It bridges oil to water mixtures.

The menthol/thymol dominated oils are likely interchangeable, as the effect on internal mites is likely the desired action.  Eucalyptus oil is often the cheapest, followed by tea-tree.    The lemon-grass oil has a pheromone function.  Rose-geranium, lemon balm, lemon verbena can be substituted for lemon grass.
Title: Re: Anyone use this formula for bee health?
Post by: Better.to.Bee.than.not on May 28, 2013, 12:40:05 PM
interesting, he doesn't mention the lecithin at all. thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Anyone use this formula for bee health?
Post by: danno on May 28, 2013, 12:45:35 PM
5 cups water
2 ½ pounds of sugar
1/8 teaspoon lecithin granules (used as an emulsifier)
15 drops spearmint oil
15 drops lemongrass oil

add tps per quart of syrup
Title: Re: Anyone use this formula for bee health?
Post by: RHBee on May 29, 2013, 07:14:09 AM
Is this a recipe for home made HBH?
Title: Re: Anyone use this formula for bee health?
Post by: danno on May 29, 2013, 08:13:32 AM
Quote from: Ray Bayless on May 29, 2013, 07:14:09 AM
Is this a recipe for home made HBH?
yes
Title: Re: Anyone use this formula for bee health?
Post by: RHBee on May 29, 2013, 09:22:14 AM
thank you.
Title: Re: Anyone use this formula for bee health?
Post by: BAH on May 29, 2013, 05:48:54 PM
This is actually just a similar recipe to Honey-B-Healthy. Here is a document form them with all the ingredients.
http://www.bee-commerce.com/content/freedownloads/HoneyBHealthyInfo.pdf (http://www.bee-commerce.com/content/freedownloads/HoneyBHealthyInfo.pdf)
no sodium lauryl sulfate: Sodium laureth sulfate, or sodium lauryl ether sulfate (SLES), is an anionic detergent and surfactant found in many personal care products (soaps, shampoos, toothpaste etc.). SLES is an inexpensive and very effective foaming agent.[1] SLES, SLS, ALS and sodium pareth sulfate are surfactants that are used in many cosmetic products for their cleansing and emulsifying properties. They behave similarly to soap.
Just the Nerd in me  :-D