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Title: Queen cell drawn from drone larvae?
Post by: nietssemaj on June 08, 2013, 10:42:46 PM
5 weeks ago I split a hive with several queen cells. One of the splits despite giving them what eggs I could they apparently never got queen right. Due to weather and other things I haven't been able to get into the hive for 2 weeks. After going into the hive today I discovered that the last queen cell I put in 2 weeks ago must have died or was killed and never torn open. It was a queen cell left after 3 others on the frame opened, the wax was removed from the end but the cocoon was still intact so I thought it might still be ok.

I saw duplex and triplex eggs 2 weeks ago and hoped it was a new queen getting the hang of laying eggs. Today I found a couple of frames of capped drone brood, no open brood and no eggs. Much to my surprise I also found 3 emergency queen cells cells among drone brood.

Here is a picture of 2 of the queen cells.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg634/nietssemaj/Bees/IMG_3959.jpg) (http://s1247.photobucket.com/user/nietssemaj/media/Bees/IMG_3959.jpg.html)

My question is this... is it possible that the bees tried to draw queen cells off of drone brood?

Title: Re: Queen cell drawn from drone larvae?
Post by: nietssemaj on June 08, 2013, 10:46:55 PM
Right after I posted this it dawned on me.... drones take longer to emerge and I likely looked during the couple of days between worker and drone brood emergence.

Wish I had thought of that before I aborted the "obvious" bad queen cells. At least I gave them some more fresh eggs. sigh. Live and learn.
Title: Re: Queen cell drawn from drone larvae?
Post by: Michael Bush on June 10, 2013, 03:54:12 PM
>is it possible that the bees tried to draw queen cells off of drone brood?

Yes.  http://bushfarms.com/huber.htm#maleeggsinroyalcells (http://bushfarms.com/huber.htm#maleeggsinroyalcells)

>drones take longer to emerge and I likely looked during the couple of days between worker and drone brood emergence.

Yes.

http://bushfarms.com/beesmath.htm (http://bushfarms.com/beesmath.htm)

> At least I gave them some more fresh eggs.

Yes.

http://bushfarms.com/beespanacea.htm (http://bushfarms.com/beespanacea.htm)