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Title: hive beetle victims
Post by: 10framer on June 13, 2013, 10:45:16 AM
last september i got 4 or 5 calls about swarms and i'm sure they were hives that just gave up and left after beetle infestations.  i wasn't geared up to take them but it did motivate me to start keeping bees again. 
this year i'm going to assume it will happen again.  the problem is that i don't have any drawn comb to spare.
how would everybody else handle this.
i suppose i could do some extremely late season splits and try to nurse these bees through the winter of i could combine them into existing hives after i find and destroy their queens.  any other suggestions?  goldenrod plays out in late september or early november and then it's over til the maples start up in late january.
Title: Re: hive beetle victims
Post by: johng on June 13, 2013, 01:49:08 PM
Put them on foundation and feed overwinter them as nucs. Overwintered nucs explode when the Maples start blooming.
Title: Re: hive beetle victims
Post by: Bees In Miami on June 14, 2013, 12:35:29 AM
10framer...I only had the luxury of one (yes, 1) frame of drawn comb to use this year, and swarm season was pretty crazy.  After a few early losses, I began shaking swarms into buckets then hiving them with frames and wired wax foundation on the spot.  I let them find Momma, and inevitably they would all be in, or at least had located the hive within an hour.   I would return after dark, close up the hive, and relocate.  I made sure they had a bit of time to settle down, and re-opened the hive before going to bed.  They woke up in the morning, and re-oriented.  Never lost a swarm since.  Drawn comb would be awesome, but not mandatory.  Good luck getting those swarms!!!   :bee:
Title: Re: hive beetle victims
Post by: 10framer on June 14, 2013, 03:02:59 AM
i'm talking about bees that abscond in september.  we have our first frost in october.  i don't think they can start on foundation that late in the season. 
i've hived plenty of swarms on foundation in spring with no problems.  i've never had a swarm pull out once i caught it and i'm surprised how often i read about it happening.
Title: Re: hive beetle victims
Post by: RHBee on June 14, 2013, 05:56:26 AM
I bet that they would be able to draw out enough comb to winter. Your temps don't drop below 60F till the last of October correct? Feed them 2:1 and see what happens. If they don't then I would consider combining.
Title: Re: hive beetle victims
Post by: 10framer on June 14, 2013, 10:25:58 AM
well, now that i'm prepared for it it probably won't even happen again this year.  i'm thinking i'll put them in 5 frame nucs and give them a frame of brood each and the rest in foundation.