how much r u paying 4 bees this year. got mine from gobb 4 $58.00 for a 3# pack, someone said they paid over $100.00 for a 3# pack this year :(
I was quoted $67 for a 3# package
I am starting my first hive and I ordered 3lbs pack w/queen back in Nov. I think it was around $59.
It is always sad when we need to start calculating the cost of bees - I think the bee farmers are getting wealthy from the sad shape our hairy little friends are in and even the farms can't keep up with production estimates - which is always under estimated by us.
I've been lucky, this is year 3 with these bees and I hope I have survivable colonies. Shame on me though, I could have easily built up honey this season and did very little with the bees except observe them.
No doubt, keeping a mindful eye on them and constantly pushing them to build up stores is the number one way to increase your hives life expectancy. Medication of course often becomes necessary too, but (just like giving people anti-biotics) you need to be sure your bees NEED medications before treating or you can cause resistive strains and generations who have no way to fight the dozens of threats a hive has to endure.
I'm not looking at prices, I'm affraid I'll jinx my hives. I know that usually means late season ordering, but I'd rather put my faith in the two colonies here at Beemaster Central than start shopping for bees knowing mine are cleansing this week :)
Good luck to everyone, I'm seeing temps in the low 50s/high 40s in my area (New Jersey) for about a week - that surely will give me a few extra days of food/fuel at the end of the season. It is extended long early Springs that usually kill off hives, they simple are house-bound with little to no food left for thermal reactive body climating (TRBC - my own term) and they drop like flies even though they are healthy otherwise.
I hope Spring comes quick and all blooms are on schedule - if THAT happens, bees are often WELL ON THEIR WAY to another survivable season in the yard. Good luck.
I ordered two packages directly from the breeder I received bees from last year (skipping the middleman) at $57 each, plus queen marking and shipping. They're for insurance, mainly.
My six hives seemed pretty strong going into the cold weather (even the two late summer splits), and they stored away plenty of syrup. Plus I did menthol treatments and oxalic vapor and put a sugar board on top of each. I haven't seen much flying though, but that's not really surprising. We haven't had weather quite as warm in our area like you've been having, John -- mostly no more than the mid 40s, if that. And I've been away from the house most days for the past few weeks too (working and traveling), so I'm not around much to check them in the mid-afternoon. Those in the field yesterday told me there were some flying, though.
I also had a bit of a skunk problem. It tore the black paper on front of one hive and started gnawing at the rear bottom of another hive box where the SBB tray slides in. I braced up the chewed section with a piece of 2X4 and haven't seen any more problem.
My thinking is that a couple package will insure that even if all the hives die (I hope not), I'll still have a couple to work with this spring. When they survive though :D , I'll have a couple more to work with! And after I split a few . . . well, I've been working evenings in the woodshop, too.
-- Kris
Well this year I will depart from the norm and try some Carnis. Was able to find a gentleman in NY who will be selling nucs in mid May for $60.00 plus deposit. Price is really not the only consideration,the challenge of a new race just excites me! BTW 3# pacages of Italians were quoted at $57.00 if I picked them up from a pollinator nearby who gets them from Georgia by the truckload.
I have been planning to split my colonies, and pick up 10 more packages. A small expansion is the plan. Of my 16 colonies, 1 looks to be failing. Still bees in there, but they are weak. The others are putting alot of bees in the air on days the temps get above 40 and there is no wind.
My package bees come from Kohnen, and they have not listed a price for 2006 yet. I don't have a clue what they will be, but I expect a sharpe increase from the $37 per 3 lbs package over last year.
The demand for packages and queens is already outstripping the market. Get ready for some huge increases.... and learn to raise some queens.
I am paying $60 for a 3 lb package.
And $2.00 to add a marked queen.
where are you geting those mike?
the bee's I mean
:lol:
Leominsterbeeman, where do you buy your's? Lagrant's wants $120, with 4 frames of brood, though.
Quote from: matLeominsterbeeman, where do you buy your's? Lagrant's wants $120, with 4 frames of brood, though.
That offer is much more better than 3 lb mere (?) bees. When 4 frames brood emerge you have soon one full box bees.
3 lb bees can occupy half Langstroth. It takes one month to get 4 frames brood. That is difference.
You're right, and I'm gonna buy tree this spring.
Mat,
I bought a nuc from Lagrant's last year and it was both beautiful and productive! I got 75 lbs. of honey from it this fall and the bees were gentle and seem to be overwintering very well.
Finnman hit the nail square on the head when he stated the difference between a nuc and a package of bees. You are much further ahead with a nuc because in essence you have bought a small hive of bees. A laying queen, four drawn frames of comb filled with emerging brood and honey and pollen. With a package you get a box with 3 lbs. of bees in it. Now they need to set up house in the hive you provide. It's kinda like the difference between moving into a furnished house with three kids, or driveng up to a building site with a pile of lumber and a wife pregnant with triplets!
You get what you pay for! :D
Jay, that's great comparison. I am buying definitly. Actually I've just received the order form in my today's mail. Thank you.
this summer wiil be my first season so I'm just starting
I bought a nuc from Lagrant's last year also. It was booming all year. I took about 65 pounds of honey in August and they managed to store 10 deep frames of honey after that for themselves. And they were started on all foundation, no drawn comb at all. Definitely worth the money. Frank is a good guy too, if you have any problems or questions, he's a phone call away.
I ordered three 3# packages of Russians with queens and prepaid $62.00 each package. (Now if I can just get my woodware built I'll be set)
four frames bees and brood with accessories are going to be $ 65.00 for me come April??? with Russian queen.
Queens will be $ 10.00 per.
Advantages of living in the po south :lol:
You have very cheap prices there. In May we have to pay 30 $ from queen. One box colony is about 250 $.
But you do not want get honey with those bees. You just keep them, :P
Quote from: FinskyYou have very cheap prices there. In May we have to pay 30 $ from queen. One box colony is about 250 $.
But you do not want get honey with those bees. You just keep them, :P
I am too far advanced in years to get involved with bees to any great extent but I do plan/and, I have sold the produced honey this past year. I do find the hobby interesting but, I, hopefully, plan to at least make enough money for the hobby to pay for itself. I am an entrepreneur and do consider cost.
The past year, my first year, I extracted about 150 pounds ( US ) and after giving some to friends and family I sold some at four dollars per pound. I left a large quantity of honey in the hives for the bees, probably more than they need, but I am being cautious and prefer not to feed. When the clover starts to flower around here I will have a better idea of honey consumption over the nectar non productive period.
I will buy two additional nucs with Russian queens this coming April and I plan to make at least two splits with new Queens.
I also plan to buy some new queens to lead those splits and also requeen at least two of my present hives.
Your cost in Finland reflect a Socialist economic system. We are capitalist here in the US and the mostly free market drive the prices/cost of things.
You also probably have universal health care? and other social benefits that we have less of? :(
I am curious about Russian queens. Do you use such Queens in Finland?
The Russians were brought here as a means of combating the Verroa mites and the breeding program was started at Louisiana State University?
Are you familiar with this program?
There have been some price increases, for everything, over the past year mostly due to increased energy cost.