it's going to be cold down here for the next week or so. lows in the lower 20's and teens.
Looks like we might have to get up in the middle of the night and close the windows 8-)
this time last year we were having highs in the mid to upper 70's. i sent a couple of hives into winter only covering about 7 out of 10 frames. i've wanted to feed but i hate cracking the top when they are clustering or when it's pouring rain. next year i'm going to try some of the feeders that sit on inner covers (i've never used an inner cover before). would make feeding in the cold or rain a lot easier.
We haven't seen highs in the 20s very much this winter.
When you have ice forming in your toilet bowl ring, then we'll talk "cold" :laugh:
i've got a friend in montana and she lived down here a few years and she doesn't really remember the oppressive heat so she talks about missing the "warm" weather down here. cold doesn't really bother me too much for the short time we have it. i feel for you guys.
Today we had a high of 5. It's not suppose to be much warmer tomorrow. Looking at a thermometer right now... it's 1 degree.
On the bright side, it'll be in the 30s next week. I might take a drive to the beach.
I wouldn't laugh, I actually wear my coat when it's that chilly. I laugh when It's 40 or 50 degrees and y'all are wearing coats and I'm in shorts and a t-shirt though. but then there is probably somebody in Saskatchewan laughing at me for thinking teens and 20's is cold. I guess it's all relative.
Wis. -13 for a high Sunday and -11 on Monday just 15 miles south of Lake Superior...Where ever you are, I'm hoping your bees are genetically adapted to your area and that they over winter strong!
Quote from: BlueBee on January 03, 2014, 12:07:16 AM
When you have ice forming in your toilet bowl ring, then we'll talk "cold" :laugh:
Blue you might should close your SBB. :)
Quote from: GSF on January 02, 2014, 10:16:00 PM
Looks like we might have to get up in the middle of the night and close the windows 8-)
We could 'feel' 30 below zero tomorrow night, NOT including for wind chill which could reach minus 60.
A bucket of water thrown into the air will freeze solid before touching the ground for the next few nights.
If its clear (and the predicted temps indicate it) the stars will be brighter these next few nights than at any other time of the year. If sunspot activity is active we might see a glorious display of Northern Lights. A cause for celebration is at hand ;). Extreme cold reminds us how fragile life can be AND how tough......
I don't mind filling our stove up with wood, tampering it down and 'cracking a window' or two if it gets too hot in the house :laugh:. Wouldn't even think of doing that if we heated the house with anything else but wood.
Let it come, the first dandelions are only 4-5 months away (and at last check my hives are alive with bees).
Quote from: T Beek on January 03, 2014, 11:24:19 AM
Quote from: GSF on January 02, 2014, 10:16:00 PM
Looks like we might have to get up in the middle of the night and close the windows 8-)
We could 'feel' 30 below zero tomorrow night, NOT including for wind chill which could reach minus 60.
A bucket of water thrown into the air will freeze solid before touching the ground for the next few nights.
If its clear (and the predicted temps indicate it) the stars will be brighter these next few nights than at any other time of the year. If sunspot activity is active we might see a glorious display of Northern Lights. A cause for celebration is at hand ;). Extreme cold reminds us how fragile life can be AND how tough......
I don't mind filling our stove up with wood, tampering it down and 'cracking a window' or two if it gets too hot in the house :laugh:. Wouldn't even think of doing that if we heated the house with anything else but wood.
Let it come, the first dandelions are only 4-5 months away (and at last check my hives are alive with bees).
I am with you with the high wind chills up to -50 and as low as -60 on Sunday. They are closing all schools state wide on Monday per governors orders.
Hey TBeek.. Really glad your bees are buzzin :bee:!! Really....I have a wood stove too and being jsut 75 miles or so from you, we enjoy the same weather. Praise God, you know your alive when you step outside to get more wood or put a new battery in your car, like I just did.
Ya these are the days when you can feel the oil on your face freeze instantly upon walking outside. So far I still have a nuc trucking in through this crap. One nuc lost and one full size hive lost. Four full size hives still seem to be doing great.
Quote from: T Beek on January 03, 2014, 11:24:19 AM
Quote from: GSF on January 02, 2014, 10:16:00 PM
Looks like we might have to get up in the middle of the night and close the windows 8-)
We could 'feel' 30 below zero tomorrow night, NOT including for wind chill which could reach minus 60.
A bucket of water thrown into the air will freeze solid before touching the ground for the next few nights.
If its clear (and the predicted temps indicate it) the stars will be brighter these next few nights than at any other time of the year. If sunspot activity is active we might see a glorious display of Northern Lights. A cause for celebration is at hand ;). Extreme cold reminds us how fragile life can be AND how tough......
I don't mind filling our stove up with wood, tampering it down and 'cracking a window' or two if it gets too hot in the house :laugh:. Wouldn't even think of doing that if we heated the house with anything else but wood.
Let it come, the first dandelions are only 4-5 months away (and at last check my hives are alive with bees).
we don't see the northern lights but one of my favorite things about a cold winter night is sky watching. it's been cloudy so long i'm not sure what time the moon is rising or what phase it's in but i'll try to remember to do a little astro photography tomorrow night.
now it's supposed to get down to 11 with 20 mph winds in a couple of days. in about a week we'll have lows around 40 and highs in the 60's again. winter in dixie, go figure.
...better keep that water dripping.
Quote from: T Beek on January 03, 2014, 11:24:19 AM
Quote from: GSF on January 02, 2014, 10:16:00 PM
Looks like we might have to get up in the middle of the night and close the windows 8-)
We could 'feel' 30 below zero tomorrow night, NOT including for wind chill which could reach minus 60.
A bucket of water thrown into the air will freeze solid before touching the ground for the next few nights.
Let it come, the first dandelions are only 4-5 months away (and at last check my hives are alive with bees).
T, we have been cold and warm here,( negative 6 now, negative 13 yesterday) the weekend after Christmas I saw one lonely dandelion in the yard.I'm wondering if it's staying cozy under the blanket of snow we got on Thursday.
And I had bees flying on the warm days right after Christmas.
i've got a few dandelions blooming in town but they don't look too happy. this will break and the maples will be in in a couple of weeks. if my weak ones make it through the next week they should be ok.
i'm close to being able to move into my place in the country part time and then i'll be able to get caught back up with the bees.
stay warm up there guys. i'm thinking the ground hog won't see his shadow this year.
Weather is predicting 13 degrees for us Monday night. Should I be doing any extra steps to insulate my hives? I only have three, so they wouldn't be hard to wrap. Is that something you guys think I should do? David
We should be warmer later this week. For Monday and Tues. we're going -55F windchill's. Lake Superior Region on Wis.
Quote from: cdray on January 05, 2014, 12:38:24 PM
Weather is predicting 13 degrees for us Monday night. Should I be doing any extra steps to insulate my hives? I only have three, so they wouldn't be hard to wrap. Is that something you guys think I should do? David
i'm not doing anything but i can't imagine it hurting.
We keep a snowshoe path to our bee yard. Just returned from a visual check, finding all 5 colonies with some frost at their top entrances, the bottom entrances have been covered with snow for over a month. I scraped the frost away w/ a screw driver, allowing the condensation to be visibly seen as it drifted from the hive.
Its minus 7 right now, calm with bright sunshine. 33 below is tonights forecast w/ increasing winds.
'Heater Bees' will be working overtime tonight. Bless their little hearts.
10framer; IMO providing some form of wind break will be your best bet during the next few days and nights. They already know how to keep their clusters warm ;). I believe its best not to disturb them too much as they prepare for what's coming, by wrapping tar paper or anything else involving messing with the hive under these conditions.
Good luck to everyones bees.
I have a wood stove too. Love it!!! of course it is out right now...I need to get the ashes out before cranking it up for the next few days. It's on my back porch..(patio doors that close) and a ceiling fan and a thru wall fan keep us warm...although...if the temps go that low the heat pump may kick in.
When it gets cold I worry about my bees...glad I don't have to walk through snow drifts to check them. I can watch them from the back porch and with binoculars I can see the color of the pollen.
Spent many years in NY, VT, NH, MA and during that time I was training race horses (harness) so every day was spent outside. Miss the horses..but not the weather. Sure do love my bees.
tbeek, it was actually almost 60 this afternoon. i agree that the wind break is probably a more sensible solution down here.
my bees were flying this afternoon so i fed. i went through and fed a few weeks ago and today one hive actually still had about half of it's syrup.
it's going to be up in the 60's again by this time next week. i'm betting we have an early spring down here this year. the clover in my lawn at home is starting to come up and i have dandelions blooming. we may have an occasional frost and even a cold snap or two after this but i'm betting we have highs around 70 by the middle of february and i'll be planting tomatoes before the end of march.
It did make it into the 60's here today and I fed a little too. It's supposed to be 10 degrees here tomorrow night, with 10-15 mph gusts so, I guess I will wrap the hives with some tar paper. I've read both pros and cons. I do have the hives ventilated so hopefully, condensation won't be an issue. I guess we'll find out....hopefully we'll be warming back up in a day or two......David
I think we got up to 55. Took a break from my "cold preparations and watched my bees. They were doing a lot of house cleaning and some were bringing in pollen. I saw at least 3 drones. Two days ago right before daylight I shined my flashlight in the hive entrance and saw icicles on the walls inside. No ice in the middle.
We only got to 26 below zero last night, a temp difference of EIGHTY ONE DEGREES from GSF's high of 55 yesterday. It actually hurts when I think about it.
Man, that sure puts things into perspective..... COLD......is relative :laugh:
I gotta go blow 16" of new snow today before we head below 0F. At least we're not going to get down to -26F. That's just ridiculous!
It's going to be a tough winter on the bees I'm afraid. :(
i don't know how you guys do it. the long cold winters would drive me crazy.
i'm sure the endless summer down here with 99 degrees and 80 percent relative humidity might seem bad to you, though. oh yeah, we don't even like it now that i think about it.
it's 28 out now and i think the high is supposed to be 29. wind is supposed to be at 20 mph through tonight.
they were predicting wind chills around 0 and possibly into the negatives tonight.
my two big dogs are outside dogs and they both have a dog house on my covered back porch and i have a fire pot between them but i've never seen them lay down next to the fire and i rarely see my shepherd mix get in a dog house. it's amazing what they can stand.
stay warm northies this time next week this will just be a memory for all of us down here but you guys will probably have to put up with it for a while. hope everyone comes out ok.
Quote from: 10framer on January 06, 2014, 10:18:20 AM
i don't know how you guys do it. the long cold winters would drive me crazy.
i'm sure the endless summer down here with 99 degrees and 80 percent relative humidity might seem bad to you, though. oh yeah, we don't even like it now that i think about it.
it's 28 out now and i think the high is supposed to be 29. wind is supposed to be at 20 mph through tonight.
they were predicting wind chills around 0 and possibly into the negatives tonight.
my two big dogs are outside dogs and they both have a dog house on my covered back porch and i have a fire pot between them but i've never seen them lay down next to the fire and i rarely see my shepherd mix get in a dog house. it's amazing what they can stand.
stay warm northies this time next week this will just be a memory for all of us down here but you guys will probably have to put up with it for a while. hope everyone comes out ok.
Nope, seems we're getting a little break. Going to be near 30 starting wed or thursday and through the weekend. That said its already been a 'real' winter for us after several mild ones, getting and staying cold in early December with few breaks. We're all ready for the annual January thaw to begin. January is usually our coldest month. Sure hope its not going to be this year because December kicked our butts.
My hat's off to you northern folks as well.
To further expound what 10framer is saying, our trade off is the summer. During the summer most of us keep a "sweat rag". We sweat so much you have to have something like that. It don't take long to sweat through a pair of jeans.
I was in Desert Storm/Shield. The temps over there were around 120/130. When I came home to the 80's and 90's it didn't even compare. The humidity here made the 120's over there seem mild. Dehydration was a concern over there because your sweat dried up as it was produced. That was something we weren't used to.
i carry an extra tee shirt, jeans and towel in the summer when i'm doing farm work. last summer was pretty mild overall thanks to all the rain and low temperatures but when you got out in between showers even if it was only 85 and cloudy you were still soaked in a matter of minutes. i was a skinny kid but still sweated a lot and now i'm a fat old man so it's really hard on me these days. what's crazy is that we are only a few months away from it down here. spring is a very short season down here.
tbeek weren't there some big snow storms as early as september up that way this year? maybe it was october but i know a lot of cattle got killed out west because they got caught in some valleys and froze.
That was a 'freak' storm and occurred way west of us in the Dakotas and Montana I think. Massive amounts of mountain snow stranded thousands of cattle. I think there's someone on this forum from the region, perhaps they will chime in with better details.
I spent a little time in desert conditions, usually just a few weeks at a time though and had limited access to some AC once in a while, but most of my experiences with 'heat' were tropical, to include Southern States, S/E Asia, South and Central America. Depending on time of year with humidity added to the equation, simply breathing caused excessive sweating, much less humping yourself and gear around for hours at a time, fun times, good friends, many memories :laugh:.
i was thinking it may have been montana but i'm not sure.
The weather is crazy!! We had the windows open yesterday nice and warm I was sweating while doing some yard work then tonight it is going down to 20. I know that is nothing like you guys up north are going through but, that is a big temperature swing.
I don't know about any losses in Montana, but we sure had them in South Dakota. Big cattle losses here. Heavy early snow drifted them in. Cows/cattle turn their rears to the wind, their heads drift in and they can suffocate. Buffalo face the wind and their rears drift in.
One friend up in that area said she figured they lost 100 head. Usually the critters are brought nearer to home before winter, shelter, food, water, and care is easier to provide, this storm hit early.
As a cattle woman, my heart goes out to the losses in the west this last year. I am struggling to keep my herd fed, between broken promises on hay delivery, cranky equipment, and now gelled up diesel in the tractor....thankfully with the herd half fed before it quit, it make one wonder why I chose this life.
I am also worried about the bees. I wish I could have set a roll of hay on the windward side as a wind break, but the cattle would have torn down the cattle panels to reach it. So just keeping fingers crossed. They were flying yesterday with the temps at about 50°. It was last night that the arctic vortex barreled in here with squalling winds dropping the temps to 10° at dawn. They have pretty well stayed there all day. Hanging onto prayers as the lows tonight will be around 3° and I won't discuss wind chills.
Possibly a balmy day for many of you all, but it has 20 years since we have seen these lows. I moved to the south from New England for a reason!!
Then talking near 60° by the weekend....with rain of course.
The weather has gone crazy!!!
carol, it has rained every weekend for at least a month now. you're right, when it's not cold it's raining and it's 2 to 3 inches at a time.
As of 11pm, we're -30F windchill, -15F actual temp, and 20" of snow. We've been having some ice quakes and various booms and bangs as sheathing and materials contract with the cold. Wish I was someplace tropical like Finland about now :laugh:
If we are to believe the climate experts (scientists, not talking heads), well over 90% of them agree that besides global warming, extremes in weather will become our new normal. There's been enough evidence for me to see (feel) it, how about the rest of you?
Increasing wind speed is a prediction that could become an issue for many around the globe. Some scientists have determined a future when the wind never stops blowing. Sailing anyone? :-D
Only 21 below this AM, tomorrow begins our January thaw with a predicted high of 4....that's 4 above :laugh:
Bluebee;
Yesterday was the first time I ever heard the term "Frost Quakes". Read about it happening in Canada. Interesting.
Quote from: GSF on January 07, 2014, 06:33:33 AM
Bluebee;
Yesterday was the first time I ever heard the term "Frost Quakes". Read about it happening in Canada. Interesting.
This is perfect weather to witness 'frost quakes' the more still it is the better to hear them. Trees, lakes and structures all responding with CRACKS, BANGS and BOOMS to the freeze up. Its like the planet is talking IMO 8-) Nothing quite like standing near a tee that lets out a frost quake. It'll shake you to your boots.
Was hoping for some sun spot activity, as the extreme cold brings about the best Northern Lights shows. Alas, its not happening this time around.
Quote from: T Beek on January 07, 2014, 06:22:11 AM
If we are to believe the climate experts (scientists, not talking heads), well over 90% of them agree that besides global warming, extremes in weather will become our new normal. There's been enough evidence for me to see (feel) it, how about the rest of you?
Increasing wind speed is a prediction that could become an issue for many around the globe. Some scientists have determined a future when the wind never stops blowing. Sailing anyone? :-D
Only 21 below this AM, tomorrow begins our January thaw with a predicted high of 4....that's 4 above :laugh:
Well, keep in mind that the politically correct, get my research funded, get my name in the journals, crowd are dead-set against any person who disagrees with them. It is status-quo to believe in man-made global warming. If you disagree, you are not considered a scientist, nor are you intelligent. Many intelligent people look at the recorded weather history we do have, and believe that the weather patterns on this earth repeated in cycles. These cycles are slow. We could see a generation or two of extreme hot or cold, or wind, or all of it. For those generations, it will be rough before things swing again to a better climate situation. From what I've been reading and hearing, some scientist even back in the '70's were saying that we should expect to feel a shift toward cold weather now.
I can't tell you how many times I've seen or heard about very smart people being dead wrong, even in the area of their expertise. Doctors who said this person didn't have 3 days to live, and the person is alive and well 1.5 years later. Doctors telling the family it was time to pull the plug, and when they do, mom sits up and asks what all the fuss is about. Scientists who say that there is absolutely no way that there is an intelligent designer who created matter and life, and yet they have absolutely no hint of an idea how matter came to be. They are so smart that they can't believe in a God who always has been, and yet they do believe that matter always has been. I'm just saying, because someone is called a scientist, or they have a few letters after their name, that doesn't mean they know how to come in out of the rain.
And 'if' they (scientists) are right?
While I agree that historically speaking weather patterns have moved slow, especially when compared with the average life span of humans, the current 'changes' haven't been very slow at all, but seem to be actually increasing. People who pay close attention to social trends will tell you, and most folks instinctively can 'feel' that 'everything' is speeding up, everything has gotten faster and everything is getting faster. The proof is literally everywhere.
I've got an old friend, a professor in Anthropology who has conducted extensive studies on past civilizations, mostly involving their RISE and FALL, seems ALL civilizations eventually have fallen and nearly 100% of the time for the same reasons (but that's for another day and another thread).
What's important to this topic and your opinion is this; He tells me we got the 2012 Mayan (long count) calendar all wrong, describing it more like a 16 billion year calendar outlining 13 separate phases in the "advancement of consciousness" in the universe, starting before the BIG BANG when there was only emptiness or space. Each phase speeds up 20 times faster than the last and actually has great historical significance, mind boggling, I know. Anyhow, According to my friends explanation, we just entered the last phase which will be 20 times 'faster' (consciousness advancement) than the last phase we just left. A consciousness advancing phase lasting a 'single' generation instead of the 20 it took us to advance this far. We can only hope, watch and wait...and maybe pray some too.
A Very interesting, albeit controversial concept to ponder.
CONSIDER; How did the Mayan 'know' the universe began some 16 billion years ago and that we'd enter a final phase long after their own passing?
<What 'if' they (scientists) are right?>
Well, those scientists and talking heads who believe in man-made global warming have pretty much had sway in policy and law in many developed nations for some time now. Not all. But if the tide can be turned, they are on the right track to do so.
What if they are wrong? They received tons of money to fund research. They made a career of a lie (whether genuinely believed by them or not). Some people built companies and fortunes selling a lie to a public that wanted to believe what they were fed. Governments of developed nations needlessly impeded or stopped the production of coal energy and the development of oil production/refinement in order to save the environment from a non-threat. Prices increased for everyone. Hundreds of thousands of jobs lost or never created in the name of junk science. But this is all hypothetical. If the world endures another 500 years, no matter what the weather does, there will still be smart people on both sides of this issue. Neither side can claim 100% certainty with credibility.
The Mayan (long count) calendar thought is interesting. I do not believe the Mayan's did "know" when the world would end. According to the Bible, which I believe to be true, that information is only known by the Creator and Sustainer of life. He didn't tell His son Jesus, while he was on this earth, so I doubt He told the Mayans. Others on here surely have a different opinion, and are welcome to it. According to Genesis 8:22, God promised Noah that as long as the earth endures, there will be summer and winter, cold and heat, seedtime and harvest. Doesn't say where the summer and heat and harvest will be on the earth. It could be that everything flips around. But this earth will always have hot and cold as long as there is an earth.
For those who keep bees in the northern hemisphere, it appears that we are entering into a colder winter season, for whatever reason. Whether it lasts a decade, or a hundred years, we probably need to look at better ways to over-winter bees in colder climate. 5 years from now, North Carolina's easy winter climate might look more like today's Maine. Who knows??? So...insulated hives? Small bee huts with heat sources inside? Electric blankets? Or it could go the other way. 5 years from now, Maine's winter could look like Southern Florida today. Good thing we can talk to people on the internet and see how to work in different climates.
Never said the Mayans knew when the 'world' would end :? Never mentioned an end to anything.
As implied, the subject you speak of is relative not certain. Certainty in all forms deserves our utmost scrutiny wherever and whenever its found. Be it science or religion or politics.
chux; Personally I hope the scientists are all wrong and you're right.
The 'infinite' heating and cooling (boiling and freezing) of the planet is a very safe bet. Whether any life survives the potential extremes is a guess at best.
Quote from: chux on January 07, 2014, 03:44:22 PM
For those who keep bees in the northern hemisphere, it appears that we are entering into a colder winter season, for whatever reason. Whether it lasts a decade, or a hundred years, we probably need to look at better ways to over-winter bees in colder climate.
1 month of normal winter weather doesn't suggest we are entering into a 10 year or 100 year cold cycle. I suspect just the opposite, based on data, but the systems are too complex to know for sure.
This current cold spell has been brutal, but this is more like it used to be in Michigan. The media likes to sensationalize everything to get an audience; it's what they do. Despite their new "polar vortex" mongering, it was colder here the winter after Mt Pinatubo exploded. The amount of incoming watts from the Sun plays a big role in temps.
The bees really thrive in our normal milder and wetter summers. I would rather suffer through some bitter cold than endure 6 months of the heat and humidity y'all get down south. So I hope the planet isn't on an accelerated warm up cycle. However there is enough data to make a person worry... if you look at data.
As for the bees, I know how to keep them warm. My homemade insulated hives work well here and if for some reason the bees are still cold, I have about 50 electric bee blankets I can deploy :-D
33* this morning....no sun on the hives and I saw scouts leave the hive...not much activity all day...but I was definately surprised to see them at that temperature.
I guess it bottomed out at -29 here two nights ago but it was 37 today and gradually up to 50 on Saturday but with winds up to 100mph, compression heating over the Rockies. It can literally blow empty trains off the track.
vance my friend from montana just posted pictures on facebook of the fish she caught in the keys today. seems like she's got it figured out.
carol, it never made it to 33 today but we did at least have some sun. i took my feist to the park and let him chase squirrels because he was getting stir crazy.
>If we are to believe the climate experts (scientists, not talking heads), well over 90% of them agree that besides global warming, extremes in weather will become our new normal. There's been enough evidence for me to see (feel) it, how about the rest of you?
First, they didn't start saying that until the evidence seemed to be other than warming. Second, no, I have not seen that. I've seen -40 three different winters in my life and none of them were recent. I've seen 114 F once in Nebraska and that was not recent either. Recently the weather has been much LESS extreme in my experience. I could use some global warming right now...
Many folks that grew up in Central/Eastern NC back in the 1950's, have told me that they remember colder winters. Some in the generation before that said it was even colder. Keep in mind that they didn't have the insulation and heat sources that we enjoy today. It just seemed colder to them as they look back through time. We warmed up a bit. Now we are a bit cooler this year. Some say that trend will go for a decade or two. Maybe. Seems to me that these things just cycle. Point is, let's learn all we can from each other so that we are ready for whatever comes weather-wise.
BlueBee, can I get a truck full of those nifty electric blankets just in case???
I've got one hive I'm concerned about with this cold. Three frame deep with 3 medium frames of honey on top. They are struggling a bit. Looks like we may get warm enough for the next week to feed a little. Hold off on the electric blankets.
yeah, it seems like this happened a little more often when i was a kid. i remember lows pushing 0 down here a couple of times and 105 as highs more often than i've seen in the last few years. in 89 we had a freeze like this around christmas that lasted more than 3 days and then it was hitting the mid 70's by the first week in february. the first couple of weeks of february that year was the best bass fishing i've ver done (and i used to do a lot). i was in a boat on a lake wearing shorts and pulling in a fish almost every cast for two weeks in winter. as recently as '99 we had a big freeze around the first week of january. we were past due, i hope it wipes out the gnat populations in middle georgia. it's a shame that the beetles winter with the bees.
People have been talking about climate extremes for a very long time. Some of the worlds former societies succumbed due to weather extremes.
Its not a new topic, unless its being discussed under a political agenda context, which these days......well, I guess we all can see how those discussions usually go ;). Been there , done that, right? :laugh:
Integrating climate science and politics (or any science and politics); That's a relatively new phenomena with its roots coming from 'land speculating fossil fuel tycoons' and their stockholders.
Why do some see only what the liberals are up to (always bad) and ignore what todays 'phony' conservatives are up to? Only half (or less) of the story is then visible. As citizens of the world with two eyes, we should strive to keep 'both' open :)
I remember a sci-fi book from the 50's I read as a kid that described our future "with near constant, unpredictable and damaging storms." If I remember correctly, it was the Governments fault :-D.
You know, America represents 'only' 2 % of the planet's surface. Isn't 'anybody' else interested in the other 98% s weather?
"Temperature's rising, fever is high, can't see nobody, can't see the sky".........John Lennon
Wow, just 'double checked' the thermometer. Its reading -29. Predictions called for 4 above, so it better get moving ;) its got 35 degrees to go.
It was 18 degrees before sunrise this morning. By 9:00 or so, it was in the low 30's. There were bees hanging at the front of the hive. Girls flying around a bit. Now, at 1:30, it's 37 degrees out. By Saturday, we'll be back up to 68 for a high. Hmmm...I'd like to feed, but it will dip back into the 30's a few nights in the next week.
I remember as a kid we lived in Vernon, NY. My Dad raced horses there. Track was closed during the winter but we stayed there and "winter" trained. I remember so much snow we could walk up the drifts on one side of the barn clear up to the roof. And one year in NH, the snow was so bad a snow plow got drifted in as it was plowing one of the side roads...I guess everyone is just getting soft and the youngsters have never had to deal with cold and snow...but they'll learn. Most people go from warm home to warm car to warm office, school etc. I have always worked jobs that were outside...you tend to take notice of the weather then.
When I was a kid I had to walk to school in knee deep snow barefooted up hill both ways. :chop: :lau: :lau:
Quote from: sterling on January 08, 2014, 06:17:46 PM
When I was a kid I had to walk to school in knee deep snow barefooted up hill both ways. :chop: :lau: :lau:
Me too!
...With a hot potato in my pocket to keep me warm. Then I had to eat the hot potato for my lunch. :idunno:
Quote from: stella on January 08, 2014, 08:34:53 PM
Quote from: sterling on January 08, 2014, 06:17:46 PM
When I was a kid I had to walk to school in knee deep snow barefooted up hill both ways. :chop: :lau: :lau:
Me too!
...With a hot potato in my pocket to keep me warm. Then I had to eat the hot potato for my lunch. :idunno:
haven't heard about the potato. You were lucky to have a potato to eat. I had to eat a peice of pig ear on a corn cake.
Boy....wish Mom had known about the hot potato....that would have been a treat...but we did have those little lighter fluid pocket warmers. :-D