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Title: 2013-2014 Hive Losses
Post by: GSF on April 04, 2014, 10:18:11 PM
I've been reading here and elsewhere about how a lot of folks have lost a lot of hives over this past winter. I'd like to see folks post how many hives/nucs they had before winter and how many they loss and what is the "normal" loss. This could be interesting. Thanks.
Title: Re: 2013-2014 Hive Losses
Post by: Moots on April 04, 2014, 10:57:26 PM
Went into winter with 10....Lost one in early February, so I was at 9, with another that I'm afraid has a failing queen, So I have it atop a double screen board above a swarm I caught and will probably end up combining it. 

I've caught and hived 3 swarms from my own bee yard, and have another that moved into one of my swarm traps yesterday that I haven't dealt with as of yet.  Yeah, I know, I obviously still have a lot to learn about swarm management! LOL!  :-D  As well as two swarms collected from other locations.

So I'm currently sitting at 14 hives, 13 not including my Observation Hive....plus the one in a swarm trap Nuc. 

This is really on the high end, actually above where I would want my hive count, but I just have a hard time saying no when an opportunity to grab some bees presents itself.  As a matter of fact, I went look at a cutout yesterday and told the people I'd do it for them. :-/

There's just a certain comfort level in numbers...When I had two hives and lost one, I was crushed...When I have ten hives and lose one, I'm like, "Oh well! it happens, move on!  :-D
Title: Re: 2013-2014 Hive Losses
Post by: Vance G on April 04, 2014, 11:01:20 PM
Thought I had it figured out but I have lost 7 out of 23 and still a month til dandelions.  three were queen failures.
Title: Re: 2013-2014 Hive Losses
Post by: BeeMaster2 on April 05, 2014, 12:35:50 AM
I had 16 last fall, sold 4 during the winter, lost one that lost its queen, combined it with another hive. Split 6 of the hives and now have 17 hives. I also lost my OH but saved the queen and put it in a split.
Due to weather and being busy with other projects I missed splitting 5 hives and they swarmed out and could not be split. One hive in a single hive out apiary swarmed and built back up and already has 2 medium brood boxes plus has a medium super completely filled with honey. I put a drawn super and a foundation on it and will not me moving to the farm because it is so large.
Jim
Title: Re: 2013-2014 Hive Losses
Post by: splitrock on April 05, 2014, 08:01:31 AM
went into winter with about 100, and am down to 60 couple, so I am at about 40% loss.... So Far.

Still, we have a little while to go, like Vance said. We will have 50's today, so I will be getting to see some good activity at the feed.
Title: Re: 2013-2014 Hive Losses
Post by: rbinhood on April 05, 2014, 09:05:04 AM
I don't like to count losses.....unless it is through some fault of my own.  A loss by means of nature, I look at it as culling the weak genetics of my stock. 
Title: Re: 2013-2014 Hive Losses
Post by: sc-bee on April 05, 2014, 09:44:29 AM
My losses have always been low till this year. Lost 5 of 12. Probably due to sorry beeekepping but i wonder because all my losses were in the same yard near the peach fields?
Title: Re: 2013-2014 Hive Losses
Post by: HomeSteadDreamer on April 05, 2014, 09:53:44 AM
Went into winter with 5.  Came out with 5. No losses.  Split one of the smaller hives and caught someone else's swarm. up to 7 now.
Title: Re: 2013-2014 Hive Losses
Post by: BeeMaster2 on April 06, 2014, 07:08:45 AM
Quote from: rbinhood on April 05, 2014, 09:05:04 AM
I don't like to count losses.....unless it is through some fault of my own.  A loss by means of nature, I look at it as culling the weak genetics of my stock. 

I agree. Natural culling does strengthen your apiary. It is tough loosing them though.
Jim
Title: Re: 2013-2014 Hive Losses
Post by: Switchback on April 06, 2014, 08:54:38 AM
I started the winter with 3 ended with 2. The one that I lost was a late cut out. But it did have honey left. We had a long (4-5 week) sub-freeze spell that kept them from the honey.
Title: Re: 2013-2014 Hive Losses
Post by: RHBee on April 06, 2014, 09:39:24 AM
Wintered 14 all survived. 5 caught swarms later at 19. I have 6 packages coming in June. When all said and done I want to winter no more than 20 this year so I'll be combining real soon. Will have nucs with reserve queens just in case.
Title: Re: 2013-2014 Hive Losses
Post by: 10framer on April 06, 2014, 10:21:58 AM
went in with 9, 1 starved and had 1 queen failure (combined it),came out with 7.  i've made 3 5 frame deep nucs and plan on making a few more this week.  i'm going to start several 3 frame mating nucs in a week or so.  i plan to go into winter with at least 30 this year.  
Title: Re: 2013-2014 Hive Losses
Post by: greenbtree on April 06, 2014, 03:28:03 PM
Just lost my smallest surviving hive last week in a cold snap (it dipped down into the teens again).  Grrrr!  It is so frustrating to get them so close to making it and then lose them.  :'( My other surviving hives were bringing in pollen yesterday for the first time.

JC
Title: Re: 2013-2014 Hive Losses
Post by: GSF on April 11, 2014, 12:37:34 AM
just keeping the thread alive..
Title: Re: 2013-2014 Hive Losses
Post by: Joe D on April 11, 2014, 02:50:18 AM
Went into winter with 5, lost 1, they lost their queen.  Back at 5 now.
My bees didn't make a lot of honey last year, so I left all they made for them.  On first check one hive had 18 or 19 frames of brood, I had left the supers on.  They swarmed and went to the hive I had lost, I hadn't put it up yet.  How strange is that.



Joe
Title: Re: 2013-2014 Hive Losses
Post by: drlonzo on April 11, 2014, 04:01:54 AM
Went into winter with 3 nuc's , had a really bad cold snap with subzero temps for over a week, lost all 3 to starvation.  Now at 10 with packages picked up on the 5th.  Plan to go into winter with 30 + full double deep hives running all russian at that point.
Title: Re: 2013-2014 Hive Losses
Post by: BeeMaster2 on April 13, 2014, 06:34:18 AM
Quote from: Joe D on April 11, 2014, 02:50:18 AM
Went into winter with 5, lost 1, they lost their queen.  Back at 5 now.
My bees didn't make a lot of honey last year, so I left all they made for them.  On first check one hive had 18 or 19 frames of brood, I had left the supers on.  They swarmed and went to the hive I had lost, I hadn't put it up yet.  How strange is that.



Joe

Strange!!!
I would call it GREAT.  :-D
Jim
Title: Re: 2013-2014 Hive Losses
Post by: GSF on April 19, 2014, 07:11:15 AM
bump
Title: Re: 2013-2014 Hive Losses
Post by: hjon71 on April 19, 2014, 11:13:48 PM
My 1 hive survived.
Title: Re: 2013-2014 Hive Losses
Post by: BeeMaster2 on April 20, 2014, 09:07:41 AM
Quote from: hjon71 on April 19, 2014, 11:13:48 PM
My 1 hive survived.

Congratulations.  :piano:
Did you treat your hive with any chemicals?
Jim
Title: Re: 2013-2014 Hive Losses
Post by: divemaster1963 on April 20, 2014, 10:20:39 PM
Went into spring last year with 52 .lost 36 due to to much rain. Went into fall with 16 lost 6 over winter. Gained 2 swarms and 3 cutouts. Now have 15 and getting another one next weekend.
.
Title: Re: 2013-2014 Hive Losses
Post by: robthir on April 20, 2014, 10:37:10 PM
I started three packages last year, one from Brushy Mountain and two from a fella a bit north of here.  The Brushy hive I started with mediums.  Brushy hive is the only one that made it and it is great.  I split it.  I don't remember what happened to the one hive, but I didn't actually go into winter with it.  The other one, I just found empty, with honey, old brood and pollen, but no bees sometime in February.  This year, I made the split and started two packages.
Title: Re: 2013-2014 Hive Losses
Post by: ScituateMA on April 21, 2014, 01:21:17 AM
I have lost only one hive since I started beekeeping . Highest colony number I had is 35 hives.
I have 5 now and all survived
Title: Re: 2013-2014 Hive Losses
Post by: hjon71 on April 21, 2014, 08:48:33 PM
Quote
Congratulations.  :piano:
Did you treat your hive with any chemicals?
Jim

No Jim. I do not treat at all. No chemicals no sugar shake. They are on natural comb(no foundation) and a sbb. All 10 frame mediums now. They still survive despite my ineptness.

I want to split or catch a swarm for increasing to 2 or 3 hives total.