Did anyone see the Dr. Oz honey segment yesterday? Did you see what he called raw honey and how it was pictured? No wonder folks stay confused about buying raw honey. Seems I read a thread recently somewhere about the "really raw honey" product and the confusion it is creating. Looks like what he was showing?
No I don't usually do Dr. Oz but was home bound for a while yesterday and the TV was on while I was in the recliner. As I have said before, It is usually "The Young and Restless" for me anyway :-D Maybe we can get Victor to get some bees..... after all he keeps plenty QUEENS ;)
IMHO Dr. OZ is first a showman. His job is to improve the network's rating. Just another talking head. Kinda like the Jerry Springer of the medical community. I don't watch, my wife tells me about his latest medical revelations. :roll:
sc-bee,
Any link?
he's an idiot.
the Y&R is still on?? i used to watch that when i worked nights and got up around 11 for breakfast, or what ever it was. that was...30 years ago! would have thought victor was dead :-D
Quote from: kathyp on April 24, 2014, 06:50:21 PM
he's an idiot.
Yeas I knew you loved him kathy :-D I feel the same way. And Victor I guess they will stuff him and stand him in the corner if he ever dies. That will be after they have his ghost re-appear for ten years ;)
Quote from: flyboy on April 24, 2014, 05:24:27 PM
sc-bee,
Any link?
It aired on 4-23. I see a link to the episode on his web page but I did not play it to verify. My puter is way tooooooo slow :-D
Try this:
http://www.doctoroz.com/episode/addictive-new-ingredient-hiding-your-food?video_id=3499527331001 (http://www.doctoroz.com/episode/addictive-new-ingredient-hiding-your-food?video_id=3499527331001)
I've never seen honey like that unless it's crystalized.
Looks like creamed honey to me
Quote from: RHBee on April 24, 2014, 08:48:15 PM
Try this:
http://www.doctoroz.com/episode/addictive-new-ingredient-hiding-your-food?video_id=3499527331001 (http://www.doctoroz.com/episode/addictive-new-ingredient-hiding-your-food?video_id=3499527331001)
I've never seen honey like that unless it's crystalized.
My thoughts exactly ..... folks are promoting that really raw honey brand and it makes others think yours is not. Huge advertising PR. Someone recently was complaining about selling at a flea market and the buyer accusing them of their honey not being raw cause it didn't look like those folks honey.
http://www.reallyrawhoney.com/ (http://www.reallyrawhoney.com/) They have created themselves a good market. A large portion as you know is the created image and name.
That was partially crystalized if i've ever seen it. And i've seen plenty. lol.. Actually what it makes me think of is a batch of honey that we got a long time ago while i was a kid. It was from a hive of bees that were starving due to drought and the beek fed the bees a concentrated sugar syrup way too long to get them through the winter ahead and then extracted it, and gave it away in the spring. It looked just like that. My dad refers to it as sugar honey.
Dr Oz is not exactly a legit show however raw honey is the only way to eat it. A lot of honey you buy is pasteurized and this is bad news. Heating honey any more than around 110 degrees F makes it somewhat toxic. I cannot eat it at all. It will affect your skin.
When I get a chance I will send links to studies to prove this. Ayurveda says that you should never heat honey above the temperature that you can drink it (in tea).
Baking or cooking with honey makes it toxic.
Flyboy, looking forward to the links. What about putting it in hot coffee?
Quote from: GSF on April 25, 2014, 10:53:34 PM
Flyboy, looking forward to the links. What about putting it in hot coffee?
GSF,
Thanks for reminding me.
If you can barely drink the coffee it is too hot however here is the link
http://www.beeculture.com/storycms/index.cfm?cat=Story&recordID=686 (http://www.beeculture.com/storycms/index.cfm?cat=Story&recordID=686)
The heat issue is mentioned towards the bottom in "What's A Beekeeper To Do?"
It gives a high # but the real one is much lower. That high # is when it gets really bad.
Quote from: flyboy on April 25, 2014, 10:37:32 AM
Dr Oz is not exactly a legit show however raw honey is the only way to eat it. A lot of honey you buy is pasteurized and this is bad news.
Agreed but the point was .... watching the DR. OZ show you think the only raw honey looks like crystalized or creamed and a sppon has to stick up in it.As you and I know not so. Does you RAw honey look like that? Probably not ;) Pretty good plug for the "Really Raw Honey" folks although he did not mention it by name. Let's see if they try to capitalize off of the segment.
Quote from: sc-bee on April 25, 2014, 11:51:41 PM
Quote from: flyboy on April 25, 2014, 10:37:32 AM
Dr Oz is not exactly a legit show however raw honey is the only way to eat it. A lot of honey you buy is pasteurized and this is bad news.
Agreed but the point was .... watching the DR. OZ show you think the only raw honey looks like crystalized or creamed and a sppon has to stick up in it.As you and I know not so. Does you RAw honey look like that? Probably not ;) Pretty good plug for the "Really Raw Honey" folks although he did not mention it by name. Let's see if they try to capitalize off of the segment.
No argument from me.
The link is for HFCS (high fructose corn syrup) not honey. I never heard to not put honey in hot tea or coffee.
Quote from: minz on April 26, 2014, 07:40:27 PM
The link is for HFCS (high fructose corn syrup) not honey. I never heard to not put honey in hot tea or coffee.
Initially that is the discussion but then in the section that I mentioned in my link it goes on to say
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Since both fructose and acids are naturally present in honey, the production of HMF is always taking place in honey and accelerates when honey is heated. As a result the level of hydroxymethylfurfural in honey is sometimes used as a gauge to determine how old a sample of honey is and whether it has been exposed to heat either during processing or while in storage. The international tolerance for HMF in honey is 40 mg/kg (or 4 mg/100g) which can be reached after 230 days at 68°F (20°C).15 The ease of HMF formation in honey depends upon the botanical origins of the honey, with locust, fir-tree, and chestnut honey being among those most resistant to HMF buildup.16,17 In general, honey heated to around 122°F (50°C) experiences a relatively slow increase in HMF. Honey has a high increase of HMF when heated up to about 144°F (62°C), and honey becomes seriously impaired with excess HMF when exposed to temperatures of 180°F (82°C) and above. 18"
Quote from: minz on April 26, 2014, 07:40:27 PM
The link is for HFCS (high fructose corn syrup) not honey. I never heard to not put honey in hot tea or coffee.
This was written down in texts 2000 years ago in a medical system (Ayurveda) originating in India.