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Title: Is this a sign of anything
Post by: HomeSteadDreamer on May 05, 2014, 12:41:29 PM
While in a hive this weekend I noticed some of the bees were really small.  I started with natural cell size queens and they built their own foundationless wax last year.  So I kinda thought they wouldn't change size.  But I had some bees that were literally like 2/3 to 1/2 the size of the regular bees (yes I can tell drones from regular  workers).  this is two workers with a large size difference.  There was more than one of these small bess though not tons.  Is this a sign of some kind of disease or problem?  the hive seems healthy and has good population.
Title: Re: Is this a sign of anything
Post by: BeeMaster2 on May 05, 2014, 01:50:30 PM
Quote from: HomeSteadDreamer on May 05, 2014, 12:41:29 PM
While in a hive this weekend I noticed some of the bees were really small.  I started with natural cell size queens and they built their own foundationless wax last year.  So I kinda thought they wouldn't change size.  But I had some bees that were literally like 2/3 to 1/2 the size of the regular bees (yes I can tell drones from regular workers).  this is two workers with a large size difference.  There was more than one of these small bees though not tons.  Is this a sign of some kind of disease or problem?  the hive seems healthy and has good population.

It is a sign that you foundationless hive is working. You must have had some smaller bees in the hive to build the smaller cells. Smaller bees hatch out a day or 2 early. This helps the bees win the war against the mites.
Jim
Title: Re: Is this a sign of anything
Post by: RayMarler on May 05, 2014, 11:21:22 PM
I have differently sized bees in my foundationless hives. I guess it's because not all cells are the same size in the hive. Bees raised in larger cells are larger bees and bees raised in smaller cells are smaller bees. I see the cells tend to be smaller in the centers of the combs and larger the further out from center of brood nest area. Sounds like yours are doing the same thing, all is well.
Title: Re: Is this a sign of anything
Post by: Vance G on May 06, 2014, 01:11:21 AM
Even among non regressed colonies, some workers appear really small especially newly emerged ones.  My bees are three years small cell and I still get some bees that seem huge compared to the crowd.  Size of workers is pretty variable in any colony in my observations.
Title: Re: Is this a sign of anything
Post by: HomeSteadDreamer on May 06, 2014, 09:43:17 AM
glad it isn't disease but some are really small almost like another species.  I'll try to get pictures soon.
Title: Re: Is this a sign of anything
Post by: jayj200 on May 06, 2014, 11:16:59 PM
maybe it has to do with age. older they get the larger they are.
jay
Title: Re: Is this a sign of anything
Post by: buzzbee on May 07, 2014, 07:50:43 PM
It's likely be the different genetics from the drones the queen mated with.