http://www.amazon.com/SECCO-Professional-Three-Manual-Extractor/dp/B00HS20N6E/ref=pd_sim_sbs_lg_6?ie=UTF8&refRID=1J8W51G7CY5PYWFBAMD5 (http://www.amazon.com/SECCO-Professional-Three-Manual-Extractor/dp/B00HS20N6E/ref=pd_sim_sbs_lg_6?ie=UTF8&refRID=1J8W51G7CY5PYWFBAMD5)
does anyone have any experience with this? looking for an "entry-level" decent extractor to use for a few years until we need something better. 2 hives last year, 7 hives this year -- all that to say -- i'll probably be harvesting less than 10 hives for another year or two.
That is a good price for a 3 frame extractor. Hope you have a couple of teenage boys to do all of that cranking. With 10 good hives, you can get as much as 500 pounds of honey. A 3 framer will take a long time. I bought a 18 frame radial Mann Lake motorized extractor and it still took the better part of the day to decap and extract 500 pounds in July and another 500 pounds in September. They are not cheap but if you have 10 or more hives it will pay for its self.
Jim
Sawdust maker, how you like that 18 frame Mann Lake? I've had my eye on that one for a while. would you have went bigger???
I see its labeled as a three frame extractor but the description says two deep medium or shallow frames. If your looking for a three framer, be sure to get confirmation whether it's two or three. It is a good price,if it's as well built as it says. And find out how you get the warranty service if needed.
Quote from: Dimmsdale on May 27, 2014, 08:52:01 PM
Sawdust maker, how you like that 18 frame Mann Lake? I've had my eye on that one for a while. would you have went bigger???
For now, NO. You still have to store it and I keep it in the closed in patio. Keeps it protected from the bugs using it for a home. Wouldn't want it any bigger for that reason. 18 is a good size, takes a while to load it up, due to decapping. It handles 25 medium supers pretty well. Keep an eye out for the sales. I got mine on sale for $1000, no shipping costs.
Jim
I'm just a little over a year in as a Beek and seem to have settled in the 8 to 12 hive count range.
I purchased the Maxant Model 3100P, it's advertised as a 9 Frame, capable of holding 3 Deeps and 6 mediums. I only run mediums and only run the extractor with the 6 mediums that extract radially.
I purchased this extractor thinking I was over engineering a solution and it would be more extractor then I would ever need or hope for....While it's extremely well built and I'm extremely satisfied with the product, the truth is, I can easily see wanting something bigger. First off, to me, the Power option is a must...I don't think I really realized that until I saw just how much spin time it takes to properly extract a frame of honey. :)
My advise would be over buy what you "think" you'll need, you won't be disappointed. Besides, it's my understanding that they hold their value extremely well and are easy to unload when the time comes.
Good Luck!
well - i did buy this extractor - and i must say it is awesome. it is indeed a 3 frame extractor - the website description is a little off. i extracted 7 frames Sunday (7 deep frames i may add) and it went exceptionally well.
the ONLY complaint about it -- as the frames get a little uneven you get some wobble in your extractor - and you will need two people to hold it in place. i have mine on the legs - i don't know if without the legs it would be more stable. i'm also thinking of anchoring the legs to a base of plywood or something along those lines.
the gear ratio is nice - meaning your frames spin way faster than you spinning the handle. the "cage" for the frames is really nice -- the bars form little rectangles about 2x4 inches -- which means you don't get a lot of warp in your comb as you're spinning the honey out.
for first time using an extractor -it went very well.
i highly recommend this extractor for a cheaper but well-built option for the new beek.
let me know if anyone has any questions.
fasten it to a pallet might be cheaper and better than fastening it to a piece of plywood.
Quote from: BMAC on June 10, 2014, 12:43:15 PM
fasten it to a pallet might be cheaper and better than fastening it to a piece of plywood.
I fasten mine to the shipping crate top. Not only do you have the weight of the extractor, you also stand on it for better stability. It also makes the legs more stable. I use 3-1/2" stainless steel sheet metal screws.
Jim
Quote from: sawdstmakr on June 10, 2014, 12:49:24 PM
Quote from: BMAC on June 10, 2014, 12:43:15 PM
fasten it to a pallet might be cheaper and better than fastening it to a piece of plywood.
I fasten mine to the shipping crate top. Not only do you have the weight of the extractor, you also stand on it for better stability. It also makes the legs more stable. I use 3-1/2" stainless steel sheet metal screws.
Jim
I took the other path. I installed casters on the legs. I figured that the forces generated by the imbalance could cause damage to the machine. Casters just let it dance.
Quote from: Moots on May 28, 2014, 01:20:50 PM
I'm just a little over a year in as a Beek and seem to have settled in the 8 to 12 hive count range.
I purchased the Maxant Model 3100P, it's advertised as a 9 Frame, capable of holding 3 Deeps and 6 mediums. I only run mediums and only run the extractor with the 6 mediums that extract radially.
I purchased this extractor thinking I was over engineering a solution and it would be more extractor then I would ever need or hope for....While it's extremely well built and I'm extremely satisfied with the product, the truth is, I can easily see wanting something bigger. First off, to me, the Power option is a must...I don't think I really realized that until I saw just how much spin time it takes to properly extract a frame of honey. :)
My advise would be over buy what you "think" you'll need, you won't be disappointed. Besides, it's my understanding that they hold their value extremely well and are easy to unload when the time comes.
Good Luck!
I thought about that Jeff. I purchsed the 21 frame unit from Brusheys. I'm glad I went larger.
Ray,
How are the Casters working out. I read of one guy using them on a home made extractor. He said it just floated around.
Jim
Quote from: sawdstmakr on June 11, 2014, 01:13:26 AM
Ray,
How are the Casters working out. I read of one guy using them on a home made extractor. He said it just floated around.
Jim
Jim,
They work like a champ. I hold on to the extractor and just keep it from walking. I think casters and allowing some movement would remove some of the mechanical stress on the unit.
Ray
Ray, what stile/size are they. I have a large set that I could add to the bottom of the plywood. It would be very difficult to add to the legs. Not sure they would change directions that fast due to their size.
I may just try it.
Jim
Jim,
These are 2" casters. I keep my extractor in the house the casters help me move it around also.
(http://s27.postimg.org/6vg5oj2cv/20140611_122803.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/6vg5oj2cv/)
I've got casters on my Dadant 20. The stand is designed to be bolted down so I'll have to reinforce the feet if and when they splay. It's soooo much easier to move/clean/use with casters though. Should have done it when I first got it.
I even installed a couple bogey wheels on my new Maxant Chain uncapper so I just have to tip it a little to push it around. All the equipment I've got now has wheels and all my supers stack on wheeled dollies for ease of movement there too.
Quote from: RHBee on June 11, 2014, 01:38:24 PM
Jim,
These are 2" casters. I keep my extractor in the house the casters help me move it around also.
(http://s27.postimg.org/6vg5oj2cv/20140611_122803.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/6vg5oj2cv/)
Thanks Ray, I need to see if it works out.
Jim
Quote from: D Coates on June 11, 2014, 04:04:07 PM
I've got casters on my Dadant 20. The stand is designed to be bolted down so I'll have to reinforce the feet if and when they splay.
D,
Why not add a 3 way chain in a Y configuration between the legs. You could also place a board above the wheels and below the legs. Much better to re-enforce than to have to repair.
Jim
The legs are made of stainless angle stock, well reinforced with welded bracing of the same stainless angle stock. They're solid. It's the feet I'm concerned about. They are flat and made of 10 to 12 gauge stainless with no reinforcing. They're designed for being bolted to something solid, not casters. My concern is the weight of the unit (when extracting) will cause the feet to bend upward and the casters will splay outward. I'm planning to cut out 3 small feet of 1/4" thick steel to reinforce the original feet the weld them into a "Y" made of either angle iron or bar stock and run it through the powder coat paint system here. Welding it into the Y will held to give it additional strength to resist the downward force and upward bending.
My maxant about beat me to death wobbling the other day. Don't think I had that much of an issue last year. I would think that having castors it would then go all over the place. Those acutally help?
...DOUG
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DO I FEEL DUMB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I just saw a picture of my Maxant 3100 and I didn't realize that I had 3 more slots!!!!
QuoteExtracts 6 medium/shallows radially and 3 deeps/medium-shallows tangentially
I picture is worth a 10000000000 words! And I always thought this was 6 framer!
(http://aprs.cc/images/3100.jpg)
DO I FEEL DUMB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I just saw a picture of my Maxant 3100 and I didn't realize that I had 3 more slots!!!!
QuoteExtracts 6 medium/shallows radially and 3 deeps/medium-shallows tangentially
I picture is worth a 10000000000 words! And I always thought this was 6 framer!
(http://aprs.cc/images/3100.jpg)
OK question time,
For those that have used hand cranked extractors. Which type of crank is easier to use? The one with crank on the top or the one where it is on the side?
My shoulder thinks it the side crank might be an easier muscle motion.
I've used both. The side crank is waaaay easier.