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Title: swarm to big for single deep so i added another deep
Post by: adamant on June 11, 2014, 06:50:55 AM
captured a big swarm that would not fit in a single deep so I had to add another at time of capture. only problem all frames where on drawned plastic foundation. will that be a problem?
Title: Re: swarm to big for single deep so i added another deep
Post by: bud1 on June 11, 2014, 08:52:10 AM
no
Title: Re: swarm to big for single deep so i added another deep
Post by: danno on June 11, 2014, 08:53:33 AM
why would you think it might be a problem?
Title: Re: swarm to big for single deep so i added another deep
Post by: trimman on June 11, 2014, 08:59:28 AM
wish i had that problem :-D
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Post by: adamant on June 11, 2014, 09:09:40 AM
I was concerned about the bees not making comb to fill  the twenty un drawn frames
Title: Re: swarm to big for single deep so i added another deep
Post by: tefer2 on June 11, 2014, 09:15:43 AM
Thought you posted that they were drawn out?   :idunno:
As long as you have a flow of some kind they will draw them out fine.
Title: Re: swarm to big for single deep so i added another deep
Post by: danno on June 11, 2014, 10:09:09 AM
I see now he had a type-o.  He said " on drawn " not undrawn
Title: Re: swarm to big for single deep so i added another deep
Post by: BlueBee on June 11, 2014, 12:30:07 PM
As my MI colleagues say; not really a problem.  Actually the undrawn frames will give the swarm more room since there is more space between undrawn frames than drawn ones.  When dumping swarms into nucs, sometimes I'll put a second box of undrawn frames on top of the first (usually with drawn comb + 1 frame of brood) for that reason.  It gives them a lot more space to scamper into when dumped into the box and swarms build comb fast.

The only potential problem I see in your case is convincing your big swarm to stay in a box with nothing but undrawn frames.  A frame of brood really helps in keeping them from leaving for greener pastures.
Title: Re: swarm to big for single deep so i added another deep
Post by: tefer2 on June 11, 2014, 07:04:27 PM
Frame of open brood, gives the nurse bees something to do and resources to make a queen if needed.
Title: Re: swarm to big for single deep so i added another deep
Post by: bud1 on June 11, 2014, 07:26:00 PM
sorry adamant fo no exp. you said drawn comb  great no problem them suckers should take off and do good, use all I have when have it
Title: Re: swarm to big for single deep so i added another deep
Post by: BeeMaster2 on June 11, 2014, 11:04:05 PM
Adamant,
5 weeks ago, I put a large swarm in 2 medium boxes of drawn frames. 3 weeks later they were very heavy and full of nectar in the top box. I added another super and they are filling it.
Jim