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Title: Are Bats a Problem?
Post by: flyboy on August 09, 2014, 05:10:49 PM
Some bats have nested in our patio ceiling. I like the idea of them eating insects but am concerned about the bees. ARe they a problem for bees?
Title: Re: Are Bats a Problem?
Post by: rober on August 09, 2014, 05:23:16 PM
when the bats are flying the bees are snoozin'
Title: Re: Are Bats a Problem?
Post by: Carol on August 09, 2014, 05:45:27 PM
Just put up a Rocket Style bat house....I checked the bat house forum about the same thing...got the same answer...Big Brown bats eat lots of flying beetles (shb?)  and they also eat moths (wax moth?).

Cant wait for residents.


www.wildlifearoundus.blogspot.com (http://www.wildlifearoundus.blogspot.com)   the bat house is much bigger than anticipated...should hold lots of them.
Title: Re: Are Bats a Problem?
Post by: Michael Bush on August 09, 2014, 09:01:25 PM
Bats fly at night.  Bees fly in the day.
Title: Re: Are Bats a Problem?
Post by: jayj200 on August 10, 2014, 12:00:12 PM
want to get them out of the patio roof as they crap where they live.
some also carry rabies
making a bat house just for them is Maybe OK but not in your dwelling
then seal it up tight
Title: Re: Are Bats a Problem?
Post by: Dallasbeek on August 10, 2014, 12:40:29 PM
Quote from: Carol on August 09, 2014, 05:45:27 PM
Just put up a Rocket Style bat house....I checked the bat house forum about the same thing...got the same answer...Big Brown bats eat lots of flying beetles (shb?)  and they also eat moths (wax moth?).

Cant wait for residents.


www.wildlifearoundus.blogspot.com (http://www.wildlifearoundus.blogspot.com)   the bat house is much bigger than anticipated...should hold lots of them.

Carol, everything I've read about bat houses is you have to be patient.  It may take a year or two before they occupy it, but after that they're faithful tenants.  Good luck.  I built a bat house, but my wife nixed the pole needed to mount it.  :jail:
Title: Re: Are Bats a Problem?
Post by: GSF on August 10, 2014, 01:59:38 PM
There is a period of time when bats and bees fly together. Namely not long before dark. At least they do around here.
Title: Re: Are Bats a Problem?
Post by: Carol on August 10, 2014, 02:11:34 PM
Dallasbeek.....sure glad I have a hubby who is willing to go along with just about everything I want to do. Built windows in my hive bodies and supers....built a "butterfly" house so I can raise Monarch Butterflies, and now has built me a great bat house. Just need residents.
Title: Re: Are Bats a Problem?
Post by: flyboy on August 10, 2014, 03:42:40 PM
How did the windows work out? I was thinking of doing that also.
Title: Re: Are Bats a Problem?
Post by: Carol on August 12, 2014, 03:38:02 PM
I love the windows. I have 3 deeps with windows.  ( 2 langs with double deep brood boxs) One got missed because it already had bees in it before Jim thought of it. I like them in the supers too. I can check and see what is going on without messing with the hives.
Title: Re: Are Bats a Problem?
Post by: flyboy on August 12, 2014, 03:55:01 PM
Quote from: Carol on August 12, 2014, 03:38:02 PM
I love the windows. I have 3 deeps with windows.  ( 2 langs with double deep brood boxs) One got missed because it already had bees in it before Jim thought of it. I like them in the supers too. I can check and see what is going on without messing with the hives.
Any pics and dimensions?
Title: Re: Are Bats a Problem?
Post by: D Coates on August 12, 2014, 03:59:58 PM
Quote from: jayj200 on August 10, 2014, 12:00:12 PM
want to get them out of the patio roof as they crap where they live.
some also carry rabies
making a bat house just for them is Maybe OK but not in your dwelling


Moth balls.  Once their young have matured put moth balls in there.  The closer to where they actually roost the better.  They'll head out in short order.  Also put a trap out style cone where they exit the roof from.  Make sure they can still get out but make it difficult and undesirable for them to get back in and they'll be gone in short order.  Just make sure to seal up the opening once they're gone.
Title: Re: Are Bats a Problem?
Post by: Diogenes on August 13, 2014, 01:54:53 AM
Took 4 years to get residents in my bat house. It's 20 ft away from a hive. (singleton and occasional nucs at home)  I may loose some late flying bees, but no biggie.

The insect-free nature of the local area in the evening is amazing. No mosquitoes!!!! The bats collect moths fluttering near lighted windows as well.

Downside is the guano accumulates directly under the bat house. So choose your location with that in mind. (collect it to fertilize plants) They keep coming back year after year. It's been 12 years, and it's starting to look crowded in there.

8-)
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Post by: LaurieBee on August 13, 2014, 02:04:17 AM
I have heard bat guano will attract bats sooner. Does anyone know about this?
Title: Re: Are Bats a Problem?
Post by: Carol on August 13, 2014, 06:29:00 PM
If it does...I want some....(guano)
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Post by: LaurieBee on August 13, 2014, 07:58:01 PM
Looks as though some members have bats already. Maybe they can send you some. Or you could find a local person with some.
Title: Re: Are Bats a Problem?
Post by: jayj200 on August 14, 2014, 09:46:00 AM
Bat Guano also known as a hazardous biological substance be careful  when handling this.
would not allow that stuff in any building or truck I use.

duck guano is also hazardous
Title: Re: Are Bats a Problem?
Post by: BeeMaster2 on August 14, 2014, 01:03:14 PM
Quote from: jayj200 on August 14, 2014, 09:46:00 AM
Bat Guano also known as a hazardous biological substance be careful when handling this.
would not allow that stuff in any building or truck I use.

duck guano is also hazardous

If it is in a cave, it stays moist which allows the bacteria to grow non stop. If it is outside and it dries out, it propably not a problem.
Chicken poop can have the same problem but commercially they dry it out and add it to cow food. Drying it out kills the bacteria.
Jim
Title: Re: Are Bats a Problem?
Post by: jayj200 on August 14, 2014, 02:53:34 PM
tell that tp any that inhale the stuff!
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Post by: LaurieBee on August 15, 2014, 12:32:02 AM
I'm guessing you're a mail carrier, Jay?
Title: Re: Are Bats a Problem?
Post by: jayj200 on August 21, 2014, 04:12:09 PM
Na

but bird detureants yes
inhaled once at the wrong instant. have this cough.
Title: Re: Are Bats a Problem?
Post by: jayj200 on September 03, 2014, 01:43:19 PM
Na just suck up dried bird guano all the time. occupational hazard

no it is not there? get your head outta the gutter

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Post by: Diogenes on September 03, 2014, 11:49:35 PM
Quote from: LaurieBee on August 13, 2014, 02:04:17 AM
I have heard bat guano will attract bats sooner. Does anyone know about this?

I've heard the same. My younger brother in St. Louis is putting-up a bat house and I'm shipping him a bag of bat..... erm.... fertilizer.....

I'll let you know if it works quickly.

8-)
Title: Re: Are Bats a Problem?
Post by: biggraham610 on September 04, 2014, 12:33:12 AM
Quote from: Carol on August 13, 2014, 06:29:00 PM
If it does...I want some....(guano)

You can buy bat guano at organic grow shops. At least you could back when I was an organic grower....... :buttkick:

It is a great soil conditioner, a bit pricey. I have several bat houses staked out around the farm. All have inhabitants, took 1 year for 2 and a couple 3 years for the other 3. Keeps the insects down around the pond, makes evening fishing much more enjoyable. G :chop:
Title: Re: Are Bats a Problem?
Post by: jayj200 on September 16, 2014, 04:59:03 PM
Bird repellents

some is real difficult to clean. like concrete the bigger birds just kind of splash it around like a flood.

seams retired homeowners don't like cleaning their new homes