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BEEKEEPING LEARNING CENTER => DISEASE & PEST CONTROL => Topic started by: rookie2531 on August 15, 2014, 08:12:19 AM

Title: varroa control choices?
Post by: rookie2531 on August 15, 2014, 08:12:19 AM
I read about api-life, guard, hopguard and a few others and then I see OA fumigation. Why do you think there hasn't been a dominate choice? I would think if they all work about the same, wouldn't the cheaper prevail? Or is there a dominant choice? I guess Im no different than many others, thinking they wouldn't have to worry about mites there first year, but here I am, and I am leaning towards AO, just because it seems cheaper. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: varroa control choices?
Post by: danno on August 15, 2014, 09:11:08 AM
first off using the same treatment year after year will cause resistance.  Second they all have drawbacks.  OA is not legal in the states.   Formic acid is hard on queens/bee's and is very temp sensitive.   Hopguard  just stinks.  Thymol requires extra trips for second application.   Some are just to expensive
Title: Re: varroa control choices?
Post by: Kathyp on August 15, 2014, 10:22:07 AM
i like apiguard (thymol).  it has it's drawbacks.  it's temp dependent and the treatment takes a brood cycle, but i have never noticed any adverse effects in the hive and it does the trick on the mites.

i don't treat every year, so i have not had a resistance issue.
Title: Re: varroa control choices?
Post by: Jim134 on August 16, 2014, 09:00:57 PM
Maybe something we may like to from read form Michael Bush
http://www.bushfarms.com/beesvarroatreatments.htm (http://www.bushfarms.com/beesvarroatreatments.htm)


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Title: Re: varroa control choices?
Post by: BeeMaster2 on August 17, 2014, 09:42:07 AM
Even showing that chart, Michael has not treated his hives since I think it 2008 or before.
Jim
Title: Re: varroa control choices?
Post by: Michael Bush on August 17, 2014, 02:43:49 PM
Last time I treated any of them was 2003.  Last time I treated some of them was 2001.  But if you want to treat, keep in mind the effectiveness with and without brood...
Title: Re: varroa control choices?
Post by: rookie2531 on August 17, 2014, 05:00:49 PM
It is interesting to hear that some do not treat. I was under the impression that since the mite invasion, everyone had to. The chart is also interesting. I guess I should have done some treatments during the split/rearing. The queens are laying now, learning as I go :-)
Title: Re: varroa control choices?
Post by: Jim134 on August 18, 2014, 03:58:05 AM
 Kirk Webster.....
  Is one of the largest treatment-free bee keepers I know in New England you may enjoy some of these articles.


http://www.kirkwebster.com/index.php/collapse-and-recovery-the-gateway-to-treatment-free-beekeeping (http://www.kirkwebster.com/index.php/collapse-and-recovery-the-gateway-to-treatment-free-beekeeping)

Kirk.....
    Does Not Have Email.  If You Want To Communicate With Him, You Will Have To Call Or Send Snail Mail!




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