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Title: any tricks for getting bees to draw out supers
Post by: ldeano on August 14, 2015, 02:43:25 PM
I have a new hive that has been doing great drawn out both brood boxes in no time at all,  then I added the med super about 3 weeks ago and they have not touched it.  Was wondering if anyone had any tricks to get them drawing out the comb, since I can't move frames up due to the size difference.
Title: Re: any tricks for getting bees to draw out supers
Post by: Eric Bosworth on August 14, 2015, 03:07:10 PM
Unfortunately, I don't have a good answer for you. Other than you just proved why I only use one size frame.
Title: Re: any tricks for getting bees to draw out supers
Post by: mikecva on August 14, 2015, 03:54:22 PM
The bees need pollen to draw out the combs (nectar for honey) so I would mist the frames with 1:1 sugar water and add a pollen patty this time of year (unless you have pollen available.  -Mike
Title: Re: any tricks for getting bees to draw out supers
Post by: Kathyp on August 14, 2015, 06:53:31 PM
Did you use an excluded?  Is there a flow in?  They don't draw what they don't need.
Title: Re: any tricks for getting bees to draw out supers
Post by: OldMech on August 14, 2015, 09:12:11 PM
Quote from: kathyp on August 14, 2015, 06:53:31 PM
Did you use an excluded?  Is there a flow in?  They don't draw what they don't need.


   Good reply.. they dont draw what they dont need..  Even if they are a bit overcrowded they wont draw if theres no flow, and if you put an excluder on they may be seeing it as a barrier.

   If they are crowded they could use the room, so pull the excluder and feed them slowly.. three or four holes in a jar or bucket over the top bars for example.. enough for them to think there's a light flow but not enough for them to store and plug up your frames with syrup.
   Heat also helps.
Title: Re: any tricks for getting bees to draw out supers
Post by: ed/La. on August 14, 2015, 11:46:23 PM
Try putting a frame in brood box. Sometimes this works.
Title: Re: any tricks for getting bees to draw out supers
Post by: ldeano on August 15, 2015, 09:00:44 PM
Thanks for the replies. No excluder on. And we should be coming in to our fall flow.  I like the spaying 1/1 idea. Think I will try that. At first I was optimistic I might get fall honey from this first year hive but I don't know now. I was just kinda wanting to try to get some of the super frames drawn out as a head start on next year.
Title: Re: any tricks for getting bees to draw out supers
Post by: sc-bee on August 15, 2015, 10:09:28 PM
Are you in a death....if yes is the answer.... be careful spraying 1:1. May get more than you bargain for  :sad:
Title: Re: any tricks for getting bees to draw out supers
Post by: chux on August 16, 2015, 07:43:47 AM
you are going into the fall flow? Around here, it seems like the bees don't want to draw much new wax during the fall flow. It's like the hit a wall and decide it's time to stop expanding and concentrate on consolidating and prepping what they have for winter. Sounds like you could ride through the winter with those 2 boxes, and the hit the ground running next season.
Title: Re: any tricks for getting bees to draw out supers
Post by: GSF on August 17, 2015, 07:28:48 AM
Last spring I melted down and painted the old wax on my foundation frames. Worked like a charm - just like on you tube.