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Title: Distance between frames vertically?
Post by: flyboy on November 01, 2015, 06:37:01 PM
What should the distance between the top of a frame and the top of the box bee?

What should the distance between the bottom of the frame and the base of the box bee?

Long story but I make everything and I adjusted some boxes during construction for metal frame rests. The mistake was mainly due to my getting different frame rests than the ones I used for the design. I now realize my mistake and wish to rectify. Also other errors may have crept in, so I am just checking.
Title: Re: Distance between frames vertically?
Post by: Jim134 on November 01, 2015, 06:53:32 PM
Where did you find your plans at ??
Are the plans you have standard to the USA in inches ?
Or are they in metric ?




              BEE HAPPY Jim 134
Title: Re: Distance between frames vertically?
Post by: flyboy on November 01, 2015, 07:01:52 PM
'Beehive Making for Dummies' Howland Blackiston.

I am a Canadian but I prefer standard as that is what I grew up with.
Title: Re: Distance between frames vertically?
Post by: cao on November 01, 2015, 07:36:04 PM
With the langstroth hive, I think the "standard" is 1/8" from the top and 1/4" from the bottom.  But it may vary some with the different manufacturers. I've made all my boxes and some of my frames and that is what I aim for.  There is a slight difference in some of the frames that I have bought.
Title: Re: Distance between frames vertically?
Post by: iddee on November 01, 2015, 08:27:09 PM
Basically, bee space is 5/16 to 3/8 inch. That is everywhere. Tops, sides, bottom, doesn't matter. They will be reluctant to build down below the bottom frames when the bottom board is less than one inch below the bottom of the frames, but it can happen if they get crowded enough. Most beeks don't allow bee space at the top, as there is no top space in a natural hive. They will build wild comb in any space 3/4 inch or more, at times, in even smaller spaces.
Title: Re: Distance between frames vertically?
Post by: Sundog on November 01, 2015, 09:32:58 PM
http://www.beesource.com/files/10frlang.pdf
Title: Re: Distance between frames vertically?
Post by: Michael Bush on November 02, 2015, 06:33:01 AM
>With the langstroth hive, I think the "standard" is 1/8" from the top and 1/4" from the bottom.

Actually the other way.  1/4" at the top and 1/8" at the bottom...
Title: Re: Distance between frames vertically?
Post by: Wombat2 on November 03, 2015, 10:00:35 PM
Quote from: Michael Bush on November 02, 2015, 06:33:01 AM
>With the langstroth hive, I think the "standard" is 1/8" from the top and 1/4" from the bottom.

Actually the other way.  1/4" at the top and 1/8" at the bottom...

Plans say rebate at top of box is 5/8" - frame is 1/2" thick - Doesn't that leave 1/8"?
Title: Re: Distance between frames vertically?
Post by: Michael Bush on November 04, 2015, 07:33:16 AM
>Plans say rebate at top of box is 5/8" - frame is 1/2" thick - Doesn't that leave 1/8"?

What they are and what they should be aren't always the same.  The frame rest should be 5/8" and the ends of the top bars should be 3/8".  Then propolis builds up...