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Title: What happened to this frame
Post by: drlang94 on November 09, 2015, 10:04:01 AM
I inspected my hive recently and found this frame it looks to have a lot of pollen but on top of the pollen is white, kind of looks like tiny white pebbles. Has a weird smell similar to fermenting. I thought mold but it doesn't seem to look like other pictures I found online.
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Title: Re: What happened to this frame
Post by: Michael Bush on November 09, 2015, 11:59:57 AM
The picture isn't large enough to tell much, but it looks like pollen/bee bread to me.
Title: Re: What happened to this frame
Post by: BeeMaster2 on November 09, 2015, 12:18:58 PM
What Michael said.
I have never seen pollen that white. Watch your bees at the entrance. See if they are bringing in a white pollen on their legs.
They may have collected it during a dearth and the only thing they found was a white powder. Maybe flour.
Jim
Title: Re: What happened to this frame
Post by: BeeMaster2 on November 09, 2015, 12:32:29 PM
I did a little searching for pollen colors. Do you have Hazel, Heather sp. or Elder in your area?
They are the only ones that were light gray on the chart.
Jim
Title: Re: What happened to this frame
Post by: BeeMaster2 on November 09, 2015, 12:38:12 PM
Please add your location to your profile. It really would help to provide a better answer to this and your future questions.
Title: Re: What happened to this frame
Post by: drlang94 on November 09, 2015, 12:45:26 PM
I'm in northern Rhode Island, cant find where to update my profile with any other information. Here's a couple more up close a few weeks ago I saw some pollen going in but it was yellow.


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Title: Re: What happened to this frame
Post by: BeeMaster2 on November 09, 2015, 12:54:21 PM
drlang,
Go to the Profile tab and click on Modify Profile and scroll down and fill in the info.
Looks like pollen.
Jim
Title: Re: What happened to this frame
Post by: mtnb on November 09, 2015, 01:37:01 PM
I would taste that, just to see?  :tongue:
Title: Re: What happened to this frame
Post by: drlang94 on November 09, 2015, 01:41:05 PM
I'll have to log onto the forum through the website not finding that on tapatalk app. I read a little about bee bread and thinking that it is probably that


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Title: Re: What happened to this frame
Post by: mtnb on November 09, 2015, 01:56:00 PM
Those are some really cool close ups drlang!
Title: Re: What happened to this frame
Post by: drlang94 on November 09, 2015, 02:04:03 PM

Quote from: MT Bee Girl on November 09, 2015, 01:56:00 PM
Those are some really cool close ups drlang!
Thanks!


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Title: Re: What happened to this frame
Post by: drlang94 on November 09, 2015, 02:06:43 PM
I did take that frame out of the hive the other day should I give it back to them?


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Title: Re: What happened to this frame
Post by: D Coates on November 09, 2015, 05:50:35 PM
Yep, if you can.
Title: Re: What happened to this frame
Post by: sc-bee on November 09, 2015, 09:02:35 PM
Have in bird feeders around? I have seen them go for the ground up seed dust....
Title: Re: What happened to this frame
Post by: tjc1 on November 09, 2015, 09:17:15 PM
I have found white mold growing on bee bread (usually on an outside frame in the spring, or in a deadout hive) and it does have a fermenty smell to it.
Title: Re: What happened to this frame
Post by: sc-bee on November 09, 2015, 09:24:30 PM
My first thought was mold also, especially if you have had the moisture we have had. But I see it a little more in vacant hive not active ones.
Title: Re: What happened to this frame
Post by: Ed Gallop on November 10, 2015, 01:09:25 PM
I've never experienced white pollen or mold. Wouldn't mold spread across the wax as well as the top of the cells?
Title: Re: What happened to this frame
Post by: Maggiesdad on November 10, 2015, 07:12:58 PM
Looks like mold to me.  You said it smelled fermenty... where in the box was the frame located, and did it have any bees on it or were they avoiding it?

I can smell the alcohol in a bag of bread that's going bad before the green comes on it...
Title: Re: What happened to this frame
Post by: ggileau on November 10, 2015, 09:12:16 PM
Hmm. I have seen that white stuff myself and I've seen mold. The mold I've seen has been in a weak colony in late winter early spring and they don't look alike. I scraped a little of the white stuff out and it seemed to me to be harder than bee bread.

Sorry I was not any help except that I have seen the exact same thing. Also we are in the same area, wonder if it is a local thing
Title: Re: What happened to this frame
Post by: GSF on November 11, 2015, 06:49:15 AM
Wouldn't mold be everywhere, not just in the cells?
Title: Re: What happened to this frame
Post by: drlang94 on November 11, 2015, 10:02:43 AM
That frame was on the outside of the hive, the bigger size on the entrance reducer was on the entrance on the opposite side of where that frame was. There weren't many bees on that frame or right near it they were all on the other side of the hive. I haven't put that frame back it rained yesterday, I have had the frame in my shed and plan to leave the frame near the hive when its not so wet maybe tomorrow to see if the bees want what is in it.

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Title: Re: What happened to this frame
Post by: BeeMaster2 on November 11, 2015, 12:23:08 PM
drlang,
If that frame was outside of the area covered with bees then it is probably mold growing on it.
I would not place it near your hive. If there are any other hives within 2-3 miles they will find it and it could cause robbing. If you want, place it about 100' or more from your hives.
Jim