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Title: Lots of bees, notbrood
Post by: Duckhunter39480 on April 15, 2006, 05:35:17 PM
I inspected both of my hives today and there are lots of bees in both hives but I can't find any brood.  Both hives seem to be drawing comb and storing honey and pollen.  The bees seem contented.  I didn't find the queen so I can't definately say that the colony has a queen.  Is there a problem here?  I did see some queen cells in one of the hives but they wern't compoleted and there were no larva anywhere.
Title: Lots of bees, notbrood
Post by: newbee101 on April 15, 2006, 05:47:13 PM
Are these new packages? If yes, when were they installed?
Title: Lots of bees, notbrood
Post by: Understudy on April 15, 2006, 06:46:29 PM
Sounds like you need a queen.
Title: Lots of bees, notbrood
Post by: TwT on April 15, 2006, 08:43:36 PM
Duckhunter39480, I had a hive like this a few weeks ago, found a open queen cell and check it for about 2 weeks and nothing, no eggs or larva and the bee's had become some what hot, on the second week I put a frame of eggs in the hive and they never drew out a queen cell, then I went out the start of the 3rd week to inspect 1 more time and I was going to use this hive as a queen cell builder but when I inspected the hive it had about 8 frames of larva and eggs, the new queen been working overtime, you should inspect every frame and make sure you don't have a cell that a queen hatched from, she could be in there, just with any bad weather and mating flights she just might not started laying yet..
Title: Re: Lots of bees, notbrood
Post by: Jack Parr on April 16, 2006, 08:35:25 AM
Quote from: Duckhunter39480I inspected both of my hives today and there are lots of bees in both hives but I can't find any brood.  Both hives seem to be drawing comb and storing honey and pollen.  The bees seem contented.  I didn't find the queen so I can't definately say that the colony has a queen.  Is there a problem here?  I did see some queen cells in one of the hives but they wern't compoleted and there were no larva anywhere.

The bees lived and watch out, the keeper might die :!:  :P

Duckhunter seems like, from your description of hive activity, that your hive swarmed :?: Lotsa bees, no brood. After lotsa bee and brood prior.

You will almost always find queen cells and they will seem polished and unused. I was just in your duckboots and my experience is that the bees swarmed :!:  I still have lotsa bees :!: That threw me off for awhile until I analyzed the problem, with some help but not from here. :cry:   I had done some frame manipulations hoping to stall any swarming activity because I wanted to pull some brood frames from that hive to install in some new nucs but I didn't get the nucs until yesterday, April 15.  We, here in the southern part of the country, are way advanced in the season due to the lack of cold weather. I was seeing this happening because I have honey I could extract RIGHT NOW.

I found a queen in my hive, caught her, ( check out my post on FINDING DA QUEEN )  and she is now in the house in a plastic ice cream container for observation.

I bought some new queens and they are now installed, in that hive and others.

A fellow beekeeper had the exact same experience and we found the queen cell with the closure wax flap still attached. The bees had swarmed but produced a new queen which he removed and he also requeened. He had lotsa bees left also.

Well ya live and ya learn. :cry: