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Title: Verification question
Post by: JackM on January 23, 2016, 09:34:02 AM
I am assuming you can do spring splits as soon as you have capped drone cells?  Yes/no?
Title: Re: Verification question
Post by: rwlaw on January 23, 2016, 09:48:03 AM
As far as capped goes, I've always read that poeple wait until the drone pupae matures to the purple eye stage. Which would make sense because the queen emerges and is ready to mate a lot earlier than drones.
Title: Re: Verification question
Post by: Acebird on January 23, 2016, 11:43:50 AM
Some people wait until the drones are flying because you want a big population in the DCA area and you don't want the drones from the hive you are inspecting that may be ahead of the other hives in your area.
Title: Re: Verification question
Post by: Colobee on January 23, 2016, 11:55:43 AM
According to the literature, queens are ready to mate within a few days of hatching. Drones aren't mature enough until 12 days after hatching. Coupled with the 14 day pupae stage for drones ( vs 8 days for a queen), there is almost two weeks difference between a capped to  mature queen, and a capped to mature drone.

So yes, if you have capped drone cells, they should be mature enough to mate with a split queen that emerges around  2 weeks after the split. If the hive is actively rearing drones, it would appear that they have some clue that the mating season is approaching. Having an adequate abundance of mature drones, to ensure proper mating, may mean waiting a week or two after seeing the first capped drone brood. Early queen rearing attempts seem to have better success by timing it to coincided with swarm season, while many report that best results only occur after swarm season.

As always - very regional, and Ace makes a good point.


Good luck!
Title: Re: Verification question
Post by: sc-bee on January 23, 2016, 06:21:21 PM
Yes, the rule of thumb is purple eyed drones...I usually wait until I see new drones.
Title: Re: Verification question
Post by: BeeMaster2 on January 23, 2016, 08:04:05 PM
As mentioned, bee colleges always teach to wait until you have purple eyed drones.
Jim