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Title: attaching honeycomb to topbars
Post by: Johnny on February 13, 2016, 07:37:35 PM
I have read about using hair clips to attach honeycomb to topbars.
I was wondering if you coould use 1by2 fence wire to hold honeycomb to the topbars.
I thought of bending it in a C shape with the 1 inch side across the top and the
2 inch side hanging down.

           1/2"
        --------
                 l
                 l  2"
                 l
                 l
                 i 
--------------
   1"
you would use 2 per topbar one on each side
Is there a problem with this idea
Title: Re: attaching honeycomb to topbars
Post by: richter1978 on February 13, 2016, 07:52:22 PM
The only problem I see is the wire might pull through anything but the darkest brood comb/dark wax.
Title: Re: attaching honeycomb to topbars
Post by: gww on February 13, 2016, 08:08:19 PM
I have seen pictures of where holes were drilled though the top bar at an angle and dow rod/shisckabob was used to stick down into the comb to stake it to the top bar.
Hope this helps
gww
Title: Re: attaching honeycomb to topbars
Post by: bobsim on February 14, 2016, 03:35:57 AM
  Hi Johnny,

  I have a couple of these made up for when the time comes (so far so good though.) The idea seems much simpler than anything else I've seen. I have a feeling the bees would propolise the wire heavily between the adjacent top bars but I don't think it would be unmanageable. Time will tell I'm sure!

  Link:  http://cookevillebeekeepers.com/04/wire-mesh-tie-in-device-for-honey-bee-comb (http://cookevillebeekeepers.com/04/wire-mesh-tie-in-device-for-honey-bee-comb)
Title: Re: attaching honeycomb to topbars
Post by: little john on February 14, 2016, 09:31:53 AM
Using 'fence wire' is a good method. I have used light gauge wire mesh with an inch by inch grid in the past thusly:
Cut the wire mesh to fit outside the frame. 
Every few inches across the mesh, cut the mesh at the point where the wires cross leaving four unsupported 'spikes'. With the mesh lying flat on the table, bend these spikes upwards, so that you now have four spikes sticking up towards you. Perform this in several places, so that there will be at minimum four clusters of four spikes spread across the frame area. Try and get six if possible.

Then, staple the wire mesh to the side of the top bar, with the spikes facing inwards - towards where the comb will be installed.
Before pushing the comb onto the spikes, tilt each spike a few degrees upwards, to help keep the comb in place.
Then push the comb onto the spikes, as near to the top of the frame as possible. It shouldn't be necessary to do anything more, but a plain sheet of mesh could always be stapled to the other side of the top bar, with them being loosely tie-wrapped together at the edges, as belt and braces. But - I have never felt the need to do that.
A week or so later, the mesh can be removed, as the bees will by then have re-attached the comb. The spiky mesh can of course, be re-used.

It might even be possible to use chicken wire, with care.
 
LJ
Title: Re: attaching honeycomb to topbars
Post by: rwlaw on February 14, 2016, 10:02:44 AM
Here's some ideas
http://www.thegardenacademy.com/BK_-_Rescue_Frames.html
Title: Re: attaching honeycomb to topbars
Post by: Johnny on February 14, 2016, 12:44:03 PM
Thanks for all the info in the replies and the link. I now have new info in how to improve my rescue bars.
And here I thought I had a new idea. Should have know better thanks again.
Title: Re: attaching honeycomb to topbars
Post by: Michael Bush on February 15, 2016, 10:07:42 AM
>The only problem I see is the wire might pull through anything but the darkest brood comb/dark wax.

So will the hair clip...
Title: Re: attaching honeycomb to topbars
Post by: Joe D on February 15, 2016, 10:53:39 PM
On my TBH, after I got it built, I had a cutout.  So before I did the cutout, I put sides and a bottom piece on the bars so I could rubber band or tie the comb in.


Joe D