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Title: Another Laying Worker Question
Post by: Matt J on April 26, 2016, 08:48:23 PM
What if:

I took my laying worker hive.  This hive has about 5 frames of partially drawn comb, multiple eggs is every cell, eggs on top of pollen,  looked several times for the queen, etc.  What if I placed it on top of my other queen right new hive separated by a screen that none of the bees could pass through.  Essentially, 2 separate hives on top of each other.  The hive on the bottom has a queen, and open brood. 

Then I left the LW Hive on top of the queen right hive for a week.  Letting the open brood pheromone permeate the LW hive.  Then pull it off, and introduce a mated queen in a cage.  Leave her in there for a few days and release her.  Would a week on top of a queen right hive with open brood be enough to suppress the LW and allow them to accept a mated queen?
Title: Re: Another Laying Worker Question
Post by: GSF on April 27, 2016, 08:49:43 AM
I can't answer that but I have done the same thing in a combine and it worked well. Make sure the one on top has an entrance. When you remove it you'll see foragers returning looking for the top entrance.
Title: Re: Another Laying Worker Question
Post by: Michael Bush on April 27, 2016, 10:14:32 AM
I have done it and it worked, but it's as easy to give them a frame of open brood every week for three weeks until they start queen cells and let them set things right.

http://www.bushfarms.com/beeslayingworkers.htm
Title: Re: Another Laying Worker Question
Post by: Matt J on April 27, 2016, 11:45:13 AM
Quote from: Michael Bush on April 27, 2016, 10:14:32 AM
I have done it and it worked, but it's as easy to give them a frame of open brood every week for three weeks until they start queen cells and let them set things right.

http://www.bushfarms.com/beeslayingworkers.htm

If I take a frame of brood from another hive, where to I put the empty frame I am putting back in to replace it?  I don't have any drawn comb, except that which is full of eggs from the LW hive.  Would I put a frame with just foundation in the middle of the brood nest of the good hive?

Also, I have a queen that I can get, could I put her in a push in cage on the frame of brood and place her and the brood in the LW hive?
Title: Re: Another Laying Worker Question
Post by: Michael Bush on April 27, 2016, 01:04:39 PM
>If I take a frame of brood from another hive, where to I put the empty frame I am putting back in to replace it?

Just swap the frames.

>  I don't have any drawn comb, except that which is full of eggs from the LW hive.  Would I put a frame with just foundation in the middle of the brood nest of the good hive?

Or an empty pulled from the laying worker hive...

>Also, I have a queen that I can get, could I put her in a push in cage on the frame of brood and place her and the brood in the LW hive?

It's not a very reliable method... they may kill her.