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Title: Mite count with very little bees?
Post by: mtnb on April 29, 2016, 11:35:33 AM
It's time to do a mite check, right? I'm wondering how the heck I can do a mite count with the very little amount of bees that I have? When I was able to look a week and a half ago, it seemed to me like they had just enough bees to cover the new brood. Should I just not worry about it for now?
Title: Re: Mite count with very little bees?
Post by: Michael Bush on April 29, 2016, 12:46:34 PM
A powdered sugar roll will kill no bees if you want to quantify the mites.
Title: Re: Mite count with very little bees?
Post by: BeeMaster2 on April 29, 2016, 01:31:11 PM
I would not bother them with just a few bees. Why are you concerned about this hive, sounds like it is new. Is it a swarm hive? If so, let them bee.
Jim
Title: Re: Mite count with very little bees?
Post by: mtnb on April 29, 2016, 01:33:26 PM
I was thinking about a sugar roll but then my whole hive would be running around looking white. lol You ask a better question Mr. Bush..."if you want to quantify the mites"...right. Do I really want to put that extra stress on them at this point to see how many mites there are?...thanks Mr. Bush
Title: Re: Mite count with very little bees?
Post by: mtnb on April 29, 2016, 01:35:05 PM
It is my overwintered hive from last year. There just aren't much left but it seems like they're pulling through. I'll know more this weekend. Thanks Jim.
Title: Re: Mite count with very little bees?
Post by: Rurification on May 01, 2016, 09:52:12 AM
Yvonne - My surviving hive was tiny this year and they are building up slowly, but visibly.   I was wondering also when I should do my first roll.   I think we're good through May, so I'll probably wait for another few weeks.   I'd like them to at least fill a box.   
Title: Re: Mite count with very little bees?
Post by: iddee on May 01, 2016, 10:10:27 AM
I would not do a mite count before the honey flow begins unless I saw signs of deformed wings or other problems.  Give them time to build up before disturbing them. Each entry into the hive costs them 3 days or so of progress.
Title: Re: Mite count with very little bees?
Post by: mtnb on May 01, 2016, 11:33:58 AM
Yes, Robin, I saw you say that your cluster was so small too which made me feel a lot better about mine. I haven't seen any DWV this spring. I think our flow will start here very soon. I've definitely decided to wait a bit.
Title: Re: Mite count with very little bees?
Post by: Jim134 on May 01, 2016, 11:39:34 AM
Something that is not quite so evasive.  I believe you would get I feel to see if there's any mites in the hive. As to do a natural mite drop through a screened bottom board onto a sticky board.(24Hr.) With so few bees I definitely would have the screen bottom boards covered all the time. If I use them at all.


                     BEE HAPPY Jim 134 :)
Title: Re: Mite count with very little bees?
Post by: mtnb on May 02, 2016, 12:18:32 PM
I did have a screened bottom board on last year. I did like how you could look at the drop easily. I kept it closed but during one of our hottest nights, I opened the bottom to see if they like it. I went out at about 1 am and there was so much noise and commotion going on, I immediately closed it and switched out to a solid one in the fall. That's not a bad a idea though Jim. I did clean off the bottom board of all the winter debris last time, so I'll just lift the brood box and peek onto the floor tomorrow. It's supposed to be 73*F!! woohoo
Title: Re: Mite count with very little bees?
Post by: Rurification on May 03, 2016, 02:20:02 PM
I loved the screen bottom boards for doing mite checks, but they did a number on the bees in the winter [and yes, I closed them, but it wasn't enough] , so I switched to solid bottoms.   The bees are much happier and build up better, but it makes mite checks a lot harder. 

I guess I could switch to screens for the summer, but that seems like a lot of extra lifting and equipment.   Must be an easier way. 
Title: Re: Mite count with very little bees?
Post by: jimineycricket on May 04, 2016, 11:50:57 AM
Quote[and yes, I closed them, but it wasn't enough]
Robin, I have made a 1/4 in. thick plywood slide that goes in the sticky wood slot. It also has a small strip of wood that goes across the end of the slide to completely close up that opening. Is that more closed than what you did?