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Title: Nosema help
Post by: orin on May 30, 2016, 06:07:24 AM
Anyone know of some good natural treatments i could use on my hives? Im really trying hard to stay away from chemicals, i was told that putting tea tree oil in sugar syrup works well is this true?
Title: Re: Nosema help
Post by: BeeMaster2 on May 30, 2016, 07:31:07 AM
What makes you think that your bees have Nozema?
Jim
Title: Re: Nosema help
Post by: orin on May 30, 2016, 02:18:20 PM
I noticed a bunch of brown spots around the entrance and I also noticed a few bees on the ground in front of the hive and one of them had K wing.
Title: Re: Nosema help
Post by: Oblio13 on May 30, 2016, 11:27:43 PM
Nosema isn't the only type of "bee diarrhea", and Nosema doesn't cause "K wing".

Maybe you're seeing "Deformed Wing Virus".

Have you done a mite count? That's where I'd start.
Title: Re: Nosema help
Post by: Gunny-T on May 30, 2016, 11:40:46 PM
"Complete Bee" is a combo supplement.  It's supposed to help in many areas especially digestion and overall health.  It's a bit pricey but came highly recommended from several large commercial operators.  We put a teaspoon in their sugar water.  It can also be drenched or sprayed. 
Title: Re: Nosema help
Post by: GSF on May 31, 2016, 04:07:36 PM
Sometimes other hives will let loose and it'll hit someone else's hive. Nosema is a virus, not a disease. Part of the cause of nosema is the floral of their gut is out of whack. One reason could be sugar water. I always put one teaspoon of organic(from the mother) apple cider vinegar with each quart of sugar. This makes the ph of sugar water closer to that of nature.

The K wing could have come from fighting or mites. Have you noticed any bees that looked like their wings had been singed, like with a lighter? That's DWV (deformed winged virus) which comes from mites. Let us know what you see and we'll try to make some suggestions.
Title: Re: Nosema help
Post by: orin on May 31, 2016, 07:29:56 PM
I havent spotted anymore bees with messed up wings. I popped open the hives today and checked some drone brood and found no mites, not quite sure whats going on. I think i might go ahead and try the vinager and see what happens with that.
Title: Re: Nosema help
Post by: PhilK on May 31, 2016, 07:50:02 PM
Quote from: GSF on May 31, 2016, 04:07:36 PM
Sometimes other hives will let loose and it'll hit someone else's hive. Nosema is a virus, not a disease.
FYI:

"Nosema apis is a microsporidian, a small, unicellular parasite recently reclassified as a fungus that mainly affects honey bees. It causes nosemosis, also called nosema, which is the most common and widespread of adult honey bee diseases".

Not a virus, very much a disease!
Title: Re: Nosema help
Post by: GSF on June 01, 2016, 11:13:17 AM
Phil, you may be right, I've always heard it referred to as a virus.