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Title: The birds and the bees
Post by: Understudy on April 24, 2006, 07:01:37 PM
Well since there has been all this talk of predators lately such as bears and opossums. I thought I would let fellow beekeepers know that today I went out to my hives and there was a bird on top of the hive eating bees as they were flying in. The bird was so engrossed in it's free buffet that it didn't notice me until I was about 5 feet away and then it just hopped over to the fence and gave me attitude for interrupting it's meal.

I have continued to notice the increase in birds, spiders, toads, and lizards in my area. It's becoming a regular jungle out there.

Sincerely,
Brendhan
Title: The birds and the bees
Post by: manowar422 on April 24, 2006, 07:11:34 PM
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today I went out to my hives and there was a bird on top of the hive eating bees as they were flying in

By any chance was this a Mockingbird?
They hang around my hives all the time.
They eat the "worn out" foragers crawling from the
hive to die, and sometimes the birds will suprise two
bees that are engaged in a wrestling match in the grass :lol:
Title: The birds and the bees
Post by: Understudy on April 24, 2006, 09:08:10 PM
No it wasn't a mockingbird. The bird was completly gray. not a pigeon, because the body shape was wrong and it wasn't splotchy like pigeons.

It was just sitting there eating them as they flew around the hive. I really am not upset. It was mother nature in action, which was kinda cool.

As I said in another post, I had never seen a fat spider before, I have now. And I know it was fat from eating all the bees it caught.

Sincerely,
Brendhan
Title: The birds and the bees
Post by: Robo on April 25, 2006, 07:36:34 AM
I have a Phoebe that sits on the electric fence pole surrounding my hives.  But like manowar sees with his mockingbirds,  she only picks bees off the ground.  Though at times,  I think she is picking the ants that are dragging the dead bees.
Title: The birds and the bees
Post by: Jack Parr on April 25, 2006, 08:44:44 AM
Quote from: UnderstudyNo it wasn't a mockingbird. The bird was completly gray. not a pigeon, because the body shape was wrong and it wasn't splotchy like pigeons.

It was just sitting there eating them as they flew around the hive. I really am not upset. It was mother nature in action, which was kinda cool.

As I said in another post, I had never seen a fat spider before, I have now. And I know it was fat from eating all the bees it caught.

Sincerely,
Brendhan

Try to determine if YOUR BIRD  :wink:  is a Starling. Starlings are not native to the US and it's OK to KILL them,  along with the feral CATS. . They are both pest.  Maybe feed the bad bird to the bad cat then kill the bad cat.  We have them here, Starlings, but I haven't noticed any birds eating bees. We also have an amply supply of cats and I tell hunter friends that the CATS are considered fair game along with the Starlings.
Title: birds and the bees
Post by: JP on April 25, 2006, 08:59:43 AM
I have lizards and assasin bugs (they are orangey red, bloodsuckers) and an ant type that a local entomologist says has no common name(Pseudomyrmex Gracilis) they are kind of a long ant,with some color, gray and rust, but mostly gray. The assasin bugs do catch a few bees and the lizards eat the dead and dying bees, not sure what the ants do, they are pretty solitary, which is unique for ants.
Title: Re: The birds and the bees
Post by: TonyBOD on May 29, 2007, 12:33:03 PM
Quote from: Understudy on April 24, 2006, 09:08:10 PM
No it wasn't a mockingbird. The bird was completly gray. not a pigeon, because the body shape was wrong and it wasn't splotchy like pigeons.

It was just sitting there eating them as they flew around the hive. I really am not upset. It was mother nature in action, which was kinda cool.

As I said in another post, I had never seen a fat spider before, I have now. And I know it was fat from eating all the bees it caught.

Sincerely,
Brendhan

I was searching for a thread on possible problems with bird predators because twice in the last few days I've opened up the gate to my bee yard and seen a catbird hopping away as if I'd disturbed what he was doing - is it possible you had a catbird?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:GrayCatbird.jpg

(Add your own URL header - I can't even post the text of a URL when am I allowed to post URLs/links/pictures here? Frustrating!)

I'm OK if he's just eating the dead in front of the hive, but if he's eating my live bees I'd like to put a stop to that!
Title: Re: The birds and the bees
Post by: Kathyp on May 29, 2007, 12:45:24 PM
i have swallows swooping over the fields eating my bees.  morning and night they eat and eat.  :-(
Title: Re: The birds and the bees
Post by: AndersMNelson on May 29, 2007, 01:04:39 PM
I've seen thrashers around my hive, which is pretty cool, since they aren't exactly easy to find elsewhere.  I don't mind giving up a few bees if I get to see a cool bird eating them :D
Title: Re: The birds and the bees
Post by: wtiger on May 29, 2007, 01:20:55 PM
I've never seen anything in action eating the bees, but dragonflies.
Title: Re: The birds and the bees
Post by: Mici on May 29, 2007, 01:46:40 PM
swallows gliding above the hives, and sparrows crawling in front, and i think some other birds to, but i don't pay too much attention so i can't identifie them.
Title: Re: The birds and the bees
Post by: qa33010 on June 02, 2007, 01:28:40 AM
    Do you have any of the flycatchers in your area?  When our cat isn't sleeping on top of the hives there are robins, mocking birds and some of those 'trashy' starlings.  Once in a great while we'll have a flycatcher on the fence in front of the hives getting an free meal.
Title: Re: The birds and the bees
Post by: DayValleyDahlias on June 02, 2007, 03:04:38 PM
Feral Cats can be trapped in our area and taken to the SPCA for neutering/spaying...I realize some people choose to kill them, I prefer a kinder/gentler way to the problem...

I have notice a hummingbird flying around the hive, I don't know if he is interested in the bees or the scent of the hive?  We have a Phoebe on the land, but he/she doesn't even come near the bees, but stays around the dahlia field catching insects...fine with me...

Title: Re: The birds and the bees
Post by: Potlicker1 on June 03, 2007, 05:16:57 PM
I've definatly had experience with "Starlings" eating bees. As a kid my dad would have me shoot them out of the air with a .22 loaded with bird shot. You could actually see them picking off the bees in thin air. I hate those birds :-x
Title: Re: The birds and the bees
Post by: Mici on June 03, 2007, 06:44:36 PM
boy have i changed my opinion on the birds...
shoot to kill!!!
ok so..birds got aware of my kindness so they tested me

result:
the two strongest hives have lost..by my estimations 20% of pasture bees, and i know this for sure, there could be no other cause! and i know the numbers decreased from multiple observations, one is, they are EXECUTING drones, up to 200 per this two hives, which is a good sign of "out-of-balance" population.

so here comes the airgun!!! one sparrow down, 5 too frightened to come again, but i think at least one more kill will be needed to prove my intentions :evil:
Title: Re: The birds and the bees
Post by: DavePaulson on June 03, 2007, 08:19:56 PM
Quote from: Jack Parr on April 25, 2006, 08:44:44 AM
Quote from: UnderstudyNo it wasn't a mockingbird. The bird was completly gray. not a pigeon, because the body shape was wrong and it wasn't splotchy like pigeons.

It was just sitting there eating them as they flew around the hive. I really am not upset. It was mother nature in action, which was kinda cool.

As I said in another post, I had never seen a fat spider before, I have now. And I know it was fat from eating all the bees it caught.

Sincerely,
Brendhan

Try to determine if YOUR BIRD  :wink:  is a Starling. Starlings are not native to the US and it's OK to KILL them,  along with the feral CATS. . They are both pest.  Maybe feed the bad bird to the bad cat then kill the bad cat.  We have them here, Starlings, but I haven't noticed any birds eating bees. We also have an amply supply of cats and I tell hunter friends that the CATS are considered fair game along with the Starlings.

Jack you really want the cat lovers to single you out don't you. Saw a bumper sticker that might interest you "SO MANY CATS SO FEW RECIPIES"

Dave
Title: Re: The birds and the bees
Post by: Scadsobees on June 04, 2007, 08:58:48 AM
I don't think that the starlings and other birds bother the bees too much, even though the neighbors have a starling aviary in their garage.

Though it did make me mad when I set up the pool and the birds saw a big toilet and were using it that way  :shock:  And I can't use an airgun because that would poke a hole in the pool.

Rick
Title: Re: The birds and the bees
Post by: Cindi on June 04, 2007, 10:36:54 AM
Protect the bees, anyway that you need to, that is all I can say, no mercy.  Have a wonderful day, Cindi