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Title: Pms ?
Post by: jtcmedic on June 26, 2017, 06:11:46 PM
Ok went in today and as was mentioned believe hive has pms. Did not sugar roll due to heat here in fl. The queen was seen and picture taken after I shook the bees off. This was after I have seen a decrease in brood in hive, I initially thought the queen was at fault but some ideas from site. Check for efb no roping and don't think it's afb. Here is what I did oav and will do again 3x every 1 dose 5 days. I reduced entrance and putting on 1:1 sugar due to low numbers. Any Suggestion
Thanks (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170626/8d891f651d7b409caf43ff4dd41c7d9b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170626/639c264a5569338aea132c1b5beac9b6.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170626/2d4f49a76e8e6b29cd7627a1b02a1a69.jpg)
Title: Re: Pms ?
Post by: jtcmedic on June 26, 2017, 06:15:05 PM
Further in nest queen is laying and trying to fight the fight(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170626/4e42f43e340c6eb3cd28955cab0f1fc0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170626/4e42f43e340c6eb3cd28955cab0f1fc0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170626/4011cb6e3ef2f7512eebe2b3448e6edb.jpg)
Here is one I uncapped and had this on larva


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Title: Re: Pms ?
Post by: Barhopper on June 26, 2017, 08:00:40 PM
If your numbers are low consider moving them to a smaller box. If you can afford to take a frame of capped brood from another hive you might think about that. Good luck.
Title: Re: Pms ?
Post by: jtcmedic on June 26, 2017, 09:20:15 PM
Will most likely do this I dropped them down to a single deep and fill 8 of 10. They had a medium with 3 frames of 10 they were struggling


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Title: Re: Pms ?
Post by: Acebird on June 27, 2017, 08:39:54 AM
Got me beat.  I don't see a problem.  What exactly is your beef?
Title: Re: Pms ?
Post by: GSF on June 27, 2017, 09:17:41 AM
If the rest of the hive looks like this, FEED!!! That might be your problem in a nutshell. I'm like Ace, I might be missing something but mainly I see a lack of nectar.
Title: Pms ?
Post by: jtcmedic on June 27, 2017, 10:04:46 AM
Thanks saw this also started feeding this hive only . 3 other All others have 2 med full of honey(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170627/4f397163065416bb77f26068a39b272e.jpg)worried hive
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170627/3c4f7d5cb10d4c72f2a626c6254d3887.jpg) best hive for comparison 


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Title: Re: Pms ?
Post by: eltalia on June 27, 2017, 08:18:54 PM
If you have the resources remove those darker (spotty capped pattern) frames to replace with newly drawn comb, preferably holding some eggs or early larvae. Monitor those.
Also do some random sampling of the removed frames to get an idea of numbers in terms of dead/malformed
pupae.

Cheers.

Bill
Title: Re: Pms ?
Post by: jtcmedic on June 29, 2017, 04:17:46 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170629/9432ada5bd6e2d58eabdaa6aba29101a.jpg) well had a high mite drop after oav. Also saw a lot of egg so I may have a bad queen also. Their pulling eggs , so making a queen from my power house with split and will pull a cell from there  and may make another split from another hive , want to grow my apiary .


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