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Title: Well I finally made myself a frame wiring jig
Post by: LenR on July 02, 2017, 07:05:48 AM
Been looking at a few on the good old Internet, and decided to give one a go.

Here is jig and it works pretty good :cool:

You can have a look here https://s6.postimg.org/i1kan3wip/image.jpg (https://s6.postimg.org/i1kan3wip/image.jpg)

Len
Title: Re: Well I finally made myself a frame wiring jig
Post by: BeeMaster2 on July 02, 2017, 08:11:00 AM
What is the purpose of it? Does it hold the frame until the glue is dry? It doesn't look like you could nail the frame in the jig.
Jim
Title: Re: Well I finally made myself a frame wiring jig
Post by: Jim134 on July 02, 2017, 12:42:24 PM
Quote from: sawdstmakr on July 02, 2017, 08:11:00 AM
What is the purpose of it? Does it hold the frame until the glue is dry? It doesn't look like you could nail the frame in the jig.
Jim

I believe if you read the original title. It would answer a lot of your questions you just asked.

        Every major beekeeping supply house in the USA used to sell these. Haven't seen one advertising years. The first one I bought is about 50 years ago.
From AI Root Medina,Ohio

Here is a picture of a different one. They are all basically the same.. Yes I still have one...

https://youtu.be/HCXwi_ZFzvM

                BEE HAPPY Jim 134   :smile:
Title: Re: Well I finally made myself a frame wiring jig
Post by: BeeMaster2 on July 02, 2017, 02:33:39 PM
Sorry about that, I missed the wiring part. I have never used wire on frames. I switched to mediums pretty quickly and never needed them.
Jim
Title: Re: Well I finally made myself a frame wiring jig
Post by: 220 on July 04, 2017, 03:40:48 AM
Should do the job, I'm still undecided on if I need one or not.
Have a hundred frames to assemble and wire, I haven't had any problem getting tension on the wires without a jig so not sure if it is worth the effort to make one.
Title: Re: Well I finally made myself a frame wiring jig
Post by: esttile on July 04, 2017, 07:09:48 AM
Lee I'd get rid of that centre board, it's only in the way, build up the long board to the same height as your top rail, now take that centre board cut it down to about 50mm, now screw it to the built up long board. Use this to swing over the frame when wiring then swing away to remove frame. Your frame shouldn't lift up when wiring.
Check out the pic from Jim134 esp the doorstop to keep tension on while wiring.
Title: Re: Well I finally made myself a frame wiring jig
Post by: minz on July 05, 2017, 01:11:47 AM
very cool video. I think it is funny when I think I know what I am doing and find  better way. I put a quick grip clamp from side to side, give it a squeeze and feed the wire through. I am never doing wired frames again anyway. The wheels on the end were what I had thought of before. I pluck mine like a guitar to get them tight.
I say this after every 100 and then get a deal on wax foundation or a steal on frames and I am back wiring!
Title: Re: Well I finally made myself a frame wiring jig
Post by: eltalia on July 05, 2017, 06:37:07 AM
G'day Jim.
The example is pretty much what was my intro to frame preparation, long abandoned. I have crosswired for many years now, along with screwing woodwork as an assembly default.
Below is a link to the Guilfoyle board, still available today for $170AUD, would you believe! I recall around $15 in the late sixties, one fifths of a weeks wage, so they are still "cheap".
Note the design includes an embedding board.
https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=john%20l%20guilfoyle%20wiring%20device%20and%20embedding%20board%20&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwj1yqvx5PHUAhVME5QKHYHIAO8QFggdMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fjohnlguilfoyle.com.au%2Fpamphlets%2FWiring%2520Device%2520-%2520Beg%2520a.pdf&usg=AFQjCNHMEH-0azsobrExWgei9lWsTjuNkg

More of a gathering of opinions from interaction during field day seminars and peer reviews thanjustified reasoning, I believe that system was made redundant by many switching to plastic foundation and many more moving to screws in lieu of the nail. Having dismissed plastic after trials I went to crosswire, and a way less "fiddly"  frame assembly for wax foundation.


Cheers.


Bill
Quote from: Jim 134 on July 02, 2017, 12:42:24 PM
Quote from: sawdstmakr on July 02, 2017, 08:11:00 AM
What is the purpose of it? Does it hold the frame until the glue is dry? It doesn't look like you could nail the frame in the jig.
Jim

I believe if you read the original title. It would answer a lot of your questions you just asked.

        Every major beekeeping supply house in the USA used to sell these. Haven't seen one advertising years. The first one I bought is about 50 years ago.
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                BEE HAPPY Jim 134   :smile: