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Title: Rotating Frames?
Post by: manfmlox on July 28, 2017, 07:58:34 AM
Good morning all!

So I have a hive with 2 deeps (10 frame). Both deeps have great comb draw on 3 thru 8 with one side fully drawn on 2 and 9. All these frames are loaded with brood and/or honey and pollen. 1 and 10 however remain completely undrawn in both deeps. Some time back I used a sharpie marker to number my frames. (mostly because I'm getting old and I would loose track of which frame I had just pulled and inspected...lol)

So my question is: Should I rotate the frame positions and, if so, what positions should I rotate them to?
Title: Re: Rotating Frames?
Post by: GSF on July 28, 2017, 08:07:02 AM
This time of year if you're not feeding, I'd leave them alone.
Title: Re: Rotating Frames?
Post by: beebad on July 28, 2017, 09:55:05 AM
The work from the sunny side of the hive as you know. They typically chimney so they neglect the frames on the sides to an extent. I have mediums and if I see they arent filling things to my liking I help them out by moving ( rotating ) a few frames inward so they fill them out...BUTT, we are in a dearthy situation up here in NOVA, so I am not sure how much drawing they are inclined to do. If you are feeding  they have to store stuff someplace and that will help

The other thing is, bees sorta know what to do, we help them with the bigger stuff....
Quote from: manfmlox on July 28, 2017, 07:58:34 AM
Good morning all!

So I have a hive with 2 deeps (10 frame). Both deeps have great comb draw on 3 thru 8 with one side fully drawn on 2 and 9. All these frames are loaded with brood and/or honey and pollen. 1 and 10 however remain completely undrawn in both deeps. Some time back I used a sharpie marker to number my frames. (mostly because I'm getting old and I would loose track of which frame I had just pulled and inspected...lol)

So my question is: Should I rotate the frame positions and, if so, what positions should I rotate them to?
Title: Re: Rotating Frames?
Post by: eltalia on July 28, 2017, 08:05:51 PM
"So I have a hive with 2 deeps (10 frame). Both deeps have great comb draw on 3 thru 8 with one side fully drawn on 2 and 9. All these frames are loaded with brood and/or honey and pollen. 1 and 10 however remain completely undrawn in both deeps."

Pretty much par for the course, aa others have said, leave them bee this year. Next major flow you could swap #1+2+9+10 into the top deep, moving any brood frames there down to the bottom deep and placing a queen excluder above it.
Standard stuff regardless of location, I reckon.

Cheers.

Bill
Title: Re: Rotating Frames?
Post by: Acebird on July 29, 2017, 01:06:03 PM
If you are intending to use a QE I would suggest not changing frame positions.  Normally drones are raised on the outside frames.  Once brood has been raised in a cell it is harder for the bees to tear them down and resize them for worker brood.
Title: Re: Rotating Frames?
Post by: beehappy1950 on July 29, 2017, 02:01:50 PM
I just figure they know best and will build out the outside frames when they want. In the spring feed and watch when they fill them out it is time for another box.