Is there any hive preparation that can be done for this storm? In the Florida panhandle it looks like the worst of it will miss me....but asking just in case it "wobbles" west.
Quote from: tycrnp on September 07, 2017, 01:39:01 AM
Is there any hive preparation that can be done for this storm? In the Florida panhandle it looks like the worst of it will miss me....but asking just in case it "wobbles" west.
No stranger to tropical cyclones (hurricanes) I would say the best option
is to move them out, but as we know sometimes a 100mile in whatever
heading is not far enough :-/
If they can be shutdown and moved into the lee side of a substantial building
they will get just half the full impact. They still need the full tiedown
but impact from debris is well lessened.
If they cannot be moved?
1. make sure all box penetrations are open and free flowing for air
2. wrap boxes in old blankets, or canvas, or at least poly tarp
3. assuming stands are in place, lock those down
4. tie down each hive individually
5. make sure your chainsaw is a goer with a sharp chain
Tiedowns consist of a strap and minimum three anchor points at ground,
the finish on each hive resembling a rough tripod design I found very
effective, but a well tensioned ground to ground strap over the top with a
spreader bar on the lid survived TC Larry (cat4) and was done in a huge hurry.
Straps are best metal - 8gauge plain fence wire or 5/16 wire rope were my
staples. Anchors I have used were star pickets with a sprinkling of old truck
axles for strainer points.
Any damage I had was from flying debri, hence the chainsaw and a quick fix
immediately after the storm passing. Bee ready to bee stung, bigtime.
Then again you can do nothing. It is rather eerie how when it is all done
and dusted you walk out the door to see your neighbours house flattened
by the roof off the home three doors up, your back neighbour's caravan on it's
side up against his shed.... and your bees off to forage.
.... did I say I love cyclones? They clean out the crap and generate huge
amounts of work, well paid. What _you_ must do is make sure you and yours
survive them.
good luck.
Bill
The word is stick built evacuate, concrete structures you ride it out. High wind storms are the test of the box joint.
I went into town yesterday to prepare my house and apiary for this storm. I have a strap around every hives, secured tight. Most of my hives are on a trailer and it is parked up against my barn. One hive is behind a wood fence and my wood pile. The house behind the fence should provide plenty of wind break. Two hives are along an chain link fence and have the biggest chance of high winds so I added straps to hold then down to the base of the trees on either side and a strap between them.
I used to have anchors on the ends of the hives but I removed them a few weeks ago. If they were still there I would have used them.
Jim
Good luck guys - hope you get through this ok.
LJ
Good luck, Jim......... And all others.
Good luck... Give me a good blizzard over a tropical cyclone any day... I do truly love a blizzard. The flooding from a tropical storm I can live without. 2011 we were hit with the 1-2 punch of Irine and Lee it was nothing compared to Harvey and Irma is being followed closely by Jose. I can't imagine.
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strapped them down and put there cover for screen bottom boards in, and now we hope it was enough, good luck to every one be safe
Thanks for all of the tips. Jim & JTC, I'm more concerned for you guys. Fingers crossed for all.
prayers for Jim, Jtc, and all Floridians!
It is looking like here at the farm we will have the eye of Irma almost directly on us. I just hope their prediction of it being no more than a Cat 2 is correct. My daughter and her family are now planning on staying in Jacksonville.
Jim
Quote from: sawdstmakr on September 08, 2017, 02:03:30 PM
It is looking like here at the farm we will have the eye of Irma almost directly on us. I just hope their prediction of it being no more than a Cat 2 is correct. My daughter and her family are now planning on staying in Jacksonville.
Jim
No change from where I am watching, Jim.. cat4 and the eye is
closing/concerntrating. 0400hrs our time.
http://forum.weatherzone.com.au/ubbthreads.php/topics/1429414/2
Attached is my best search of info.. got any radar links?
Hang in there mate, calm and alert is the way through. Believe me I
know exactly where you're at, right now. Riding this one with ya..it
helps, I know that much : beers:
Bill
Bill,
If I look at 3 different maps, I get 3 different routes. :angry:
Right now they are saying cat 1 and west of us. Stand by, it will change.
Jim
Jim, is your home in a flood prone area?
Herb,
My farm is at about 110' and we are close to the highest elevations. My old house in town is about at 33'. It is in an evacuation area but has never flooded. Houses close to me can have some problems.
Jim
Quote from: sawdstmakr on September 08, 2017, 04:34:56 PM
Bill,
If I look at 3 different maps, I get 3 different routes. :angry:
.... bloody tell me about it!! Our bloody BOM hides behind a wall of coned tinfoil
hats - IF BUT MAYBE.... gives me the right grits I tellya.
Back in the day when we all had hard copper landlines I had a network of
savvy buddies which coud be used to triangulate eye location by barometric
readings and wind direction, right down to within 10 mile, anything up to maybe
an hour before landfall. Now the bloody power goes out leaving cell networks
ripped! Larry wiped us out only because last we heard from BOM we were well
out of that path and so left preps as "basic"... it was the middle of the night he
gave it to us and many more to the SouWest.
All done, we pulled out and changed localitys, further west. Now (retirement) we
are back in the high risk zone, that Weatherzone site is our only 'safe' pool of info.
Quote
Right now they are saying cat 1 and west of us. Stand by, it will change.
Jim
That's great news Jim... well, what one wants to hear when sitting, waiting.
Change can be even better, with luck.
I'm sucking wind for ya... might drag it further West :-)))
Bill
My step daughter is in West Palm beach area holding down the fort, hers and ours. She had a friend from the keys staying in our house but she got scared and booked north. Last we heard she was in Orlando. I suggested she go up 27 and camp out in Ocala, highest point in FL around 600 ft. It looks like it is going to track right up the center of FL which is good for the east coast. The Keys and Miami are going to get hammered. There is a guy form the keys that was on this forum but I haven't heard a thing from him.
Floridia folks, Jim as well as others that I have not had the pleasure:
May Irma leave your family and your bees untouched. May the winds blow the varroa mites and the small hive beetle into the ocean. May you be left with a flower bloom to aw after Irma fades away into history with little significance. These are my thoughts. Not very realistic, I know, but pleasant thoughts.
Blessings
I don't wish it on anyone but I hope it keeps going west. Worked on securing hives all morning and disaster relief meetings all afternoon.
DRM work is good BH... keeps one focused and informed.
Still saying stable at cat4, best I can gather. Hopefully it will stall a bit avoiding a
fully black landing into Saturday morning. Folks lose it (easier) in black landings.
I have a radar image here;
http://www.met.inf.cu/asp/genesis.asp?TB0=PLANTILLAS&TB1=RADAR&TB2=../Radar/07Holguin/hlgMAXw01a.gif
Bill
Prayers, best wishes and good luck to all our FLA beekeeping friends, along with their families and neighbors!
Just became cat.5. Hoping best for all in Florida. It moved more to west. Hoping it's a tropical storm by the time it hits me here in middle ga.. could not get out to tie down the hives. Had to get more fuel for the gens and protect them for when we loose power. 100% of that here at my home. Recalling on lines for sure. Power company's and public works been out cutting down any tree near lines weather on private property or not.Hoping flash flood waters does not cut us off creek drains the whole pedimont wildlife refuge lands in middle Ga.
John
Not that it matters so much John, I heard that cat5 call a few hours ago.
The report was trashed aa media hype - you got any real time links
to updates? Thanks.
Bill
Upraded to cat5 and forecast to move further west, aside from
immediate (local) tidal surge it matters little whether Irma comes
over water or over mainland as she is huge in area so everyone will
share, throughout Florida.
http://weather.cod.edu/satrad/exper/?parms=meso1-13-24-0-100
...good lucks, all
Bill
Quote from: eltalia on September 09, 2017, 12:37:33 AM
Not that it matters so much John, I heard that cat5 call a few hours ago.
The report was trashed aa media hype - you got any real time links
to updates? Thanks.
Bill
I use www.nhc.noaa.gov . they are the hunters flying thru it.
Quote from: eltalia on September 09, 2017, 06:05:28 AM
it matters little whether Irma comes
over water or over mainland as she is huge in area so everyone will
share, throughout Florida.
The longer is stays over water the more water it picks up. That is why huge matters.
Quote from: Acebird on September 09, 2017, 11:08:12 AM
Quote from: eltalia on September 09, 2017, 06:05:28 AM
it matters little whether Irma comes
over water or over mainland as she is huge in area so everyone will
share, throughout Florida.
The longer is stays over water the more water it picks up. That is why huge matters.
Nppe. Water equals heat source which produces strength/barometric values - the
quantative measure for travel and wind speeds. Many a dry low has bought destructive
winds from over the oceans.
Brush up on your meterological (sp?) core knowledge, young fella ;->
An' John... thanks for that link mate, down at the moment (for us) I'll stay on it :-)
Bill
I been keeping up with it the best I can with the news on tv. Could get real bad for our neighbors in Florida. Prayers from up here in Georgia. Also I heard it's hard to find a hotel or place to stay for people leaving Florida. My wife works for 911 as a dispatcher and there sending any available units down there and helping with evacuation, children first. Been doing it for days. I had a fella call me today that owns a disaster management company wanting me to line up some crews to go to work. He said "I need an army down there as soon as the wind stops blowing." I think it's about to get pretty bad. We've had extremely busy gas stations up here where I'm at, well north of Atlanta. Traffic as well. People are having to travel well past the hurricanes reach just to find a place to stay..
Quote from: eltalia on September 09, 2017, 06:19:56 PM
Quote from: Acebird on September 09, 2017, 11:08:12 AM
Quote from: eltalia on September 09, 2017, 06:05:28 AM
it matters little whether Irma comes
over water or over mainland as she is huge in area so everyone will
share, throughout Florida.
The longer is stays over water the more water it picks up. That is why huge matters.
Nppe. Water equals heat source which produces strength/barometric values - the
quantative measure for travel and wind speeds. Many a dry low has bought destructive
winds from over the oceans.
Brush up on your meterological (sp?) core knowledge, young fella ;
Bill
From NOAA:
As long as the base of this weather system remains over warm water and its top is not sheared apart by high-altitude winds, it will strengthen and grow. More and more heat and water will be pumped into the air. The pressure at its core will drop further and further, sucking in wind at ever increasing speeds. Over several hours to days, the storm will intensify, finally reaching hurricane status when the winds that swirl around it reach sustained speeds of 74 miles per hour or more.
You ain't wrong but you ain't totally right either like you think you are... Well time for your cute coy remark... I say, maybe you need to "Brush up on your meterological (sp?) core knowledge", OLD MAN... And I don't mean old man disrespectfully.... :shocked: :wink:
Quote from: Fishing-Nut on September 09, 2017, 07:39:53 PM
I been keeping up with it the best I can with the news on tv. Could get real bad for our neighbors in Florida. Prayers from up here in Georgia. Also I heard it's hard to find a hotel or place to stay for people leaving Florida. My wife works for 911 as a dispatcher and there sending any available units down there and helping with evacuation, children first. Been doing it for days. I had a fella call me today that owns a disaster management company wanting me to line up some crews to go to work. He said "I need an army down there as soon as the wind stops blowing." I think it's about to get pretty bad. We've had extremely busy gas stations up here where I'm at, well north of Atlanta. Traffic as well. People are having to travel well past the hurricanes reach just to find a place to stay..
[nodding]
That "panhandle" land mass is probably one of the best "example of kind" in terms of
how cyclonic winds on land can destroy pretty much everything, given time.
That then highlights the other social problem of how the heck one gets folk out in time.
Irma makes landfall and travels along it as forecast..?... many many people are going to
be hurt, physically, and later, financially. Others are going to make a packet in the
12months thereafter.
Bill
"You ain't wrong but you ain't totally right either like you think you are"
Yup, no I aint wrong nor did I hold the young pup's hand in doing his googlin' for him - mine came straight
from core knowledge, no manual/bible/dictionary required. Some however just cannot help themselves in
dot pointing advice in a "low pressure systems for dummies" type delivery, hey?
tip: Study your lifted quote so you do know what it means and not what you think it means. Then review
your claim quoted above... heh : grins:
FWIW;
When you want a lesson in latent/sensible heat and enthalpy - the factors behind "the pressure at it's core
will drop further" - jes' holler, after some reading on your own, as advised above ..........................................
nonbigly noncutely : slowclaps:
Bill
Quote from: eltalia on September 10, 2017, 02:15:16 AM
"You ain't wrong but you ain't totally right either like you think you are"
Yup, no I aint wrong nor did I hold the young pup's hand in doing his googlin' for him - mine came straight
from core knowledge, no manual/bible/dictionary required. Some however just cannot help themselves in
dot pointing advice in a "low pressure systems for dummies" type delivery, hey?
tip: Study your lifted quote so you do know what it means and not what you think it means. Then review
your claim quoted above... heh : grins:
FWIW;
When you want a lesson in latent/sensible heat and enthalpy - the factors behind "the pressure at it's core
will drop further" - jes' holler, after some reading on your own, as advised above ..........................................
nonbigly noncutely : slowclaps:
Bill
Yep you didn't disappoint... more dodging, mumbling and chest thumping... Speaking of
"low pressure systems for dummies" What is all this about : grins: : slowclaps: I would have thought you would have figured it out by now.... you need me too come down and hold your hand and explain how it's done heh :wink:
Well it is starting all ready. Barometric pressure is starting to drop, we have already had 2" of rain according to my rain gauge.
Thanks for all the good words.
Right now it looks like it is going to stay at a cat 3 until it hits land and should be cat 1 or less when it goes by here. I sure hope so.
John,
How close is it supposed to get to you, not sure if it matters much. This thing is so big, it is a monster.
I was supposed to have my daughters family and a friend of my sons and his brother but they all decided to stay in Jacksonville.
Yesterday on FaceTime I walked my daughter through buying all the parts she needed to make a power cord to connect her generator to the dryer outlet so that she can keep power to the whole house.
Then we spent an hour wiring the generator connector and connecting the cable and the dryer cable together. I was able to watch and check everything she did and she did a great job. I would never have done it without FaceTime allowing me to see and check every step.
Luckily I had loaned my neighbor one of my generators the day before and I had to do the same thing to use his dryer outlet.
The rain has stopped for now or it is light enough that I cannot hear it. By the time the next bands come through my pond will probably start to over flow. It flows into my front yard. When we built this house I had an 8" pipe installed with 3 drain boxes in the front yard. During the last heavy rains we had I found out that she water does not flow down the pipe because the pipe is in the creek and is under water fighting the creek flow. The pipe is 500' long.
Yesterday I cut a 8" notch on the down stream side of the pipe. I am hoping this create a little suction on the pipe and allows the water to flow. Only time will tell.
For everyone else in the wake of this monster, hang on. Hope we will all be safe.
Jim
"you need me too[sic] come down and hold your hand and explain how it's done heh "
Try as you do to takeover the topic yer gettin' done like a dinner, and that
with my lead arm tied behind my back!
Florida is about to cop it, so I am staying on topic. You want something
else then you have ample opportunity in those "coffee house" threads, if
your up to backing your (2%) corner of the room, like... heh.
(author <sc-bee> dodge on education opportunity, noted)
Not my problem I know my stuff... I earnt it, not leeched it from the
InnerNetz : grins: + : slowclaps:
Bill
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Yep....
She's coming in Jim, turning... hang in there and mind how you go.
https://www.earthcam.com/events/extremeweather/
You got a link to that FaceTime site...?.... I'd like to check some detail, thanks.
... lucks to all.
Bill
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Quote from: eltalia on September 10, 2017, 07:05:18 AM
Yep....
She's coming in Jim, turning... hang in there and mind how you go.
https://www.earthcam.com/events/extremeweather/
You got a link to that Faceline site...?.... I'd like to check some detail, thanks.
... lucks to all.
Bill
Bill,
It is built into the iPhone/iPad. When you look at a contact, there is a phone handset symbol and a video camera symbol. Click on the camera. You will see a video of your self on the screen and when they answer it will switch to the person who answers. You will then get a small picture of yourself in the top left corner. Use it to keep your camera aimed at your fact. It is what the other person is seeing. You also can use it to show the other person something.
yea Jim. its probly going to come just to the west. dang it the worst is on the east side. it may slide further west. depends if it stays out in the water. I have wifes relatives in holiday just outside tampa on the coast. they got stuck there and could not get out. also have grandkids up just east of talahassee. they just moved there two months ago. ten miles from shore. moved to a highrise hotel yesterday. hoping it stays the course. would rather it come inland to to drop the speed of the winds. I'm getting more gas and loading the gens on the truck to keep them out of the water. gas is getting short up here.but we have a good nieghborhood here. 10 familes that have been here for 10 years or more and we look put for each other. just hunkering down to see what happens. I'v been out on FMLA for the wife but they may still call me in if needed so have nieghboor ready to take the wife if needed.
john
Quote from: sawdstmakr on September 10, 2017, 07:16:03 AM
Bill,
It is built into the iPhone/iPad....
(edit)
Ahhh, okay, silly me I should have g00gl'd it. Didn't even cross my mind FaceTime was an app, sorry.
Probably paranoia, I got the tingles reading this;
" buying all the parts she needed to make a power cord to connect her generator to the dryer outlet so
that she can keep power to the whole house".
As terminology is often at variance I was going to check this "power cord" was not what I am familiar
with knowing (sadly) as "deadmans lead" here.
Knowing your're a handy fella of conscience and care my question was more to inform myself on how
you guys went about temporary connected power hookups. Here many a linesman has been killed doing
after storm repairs to street aerials, the fault being backfed generator feeds from a home in the street.
Just tell me none of the methods described on this page have been used and I will be able to sleep
tonight, thanks.
https://hubpages.com/living/How-to-plug-my-generator-into-my-dryer-outlet-and-become-a-fatality
Cheerio...an' lucks
Bill
when you tye to the house through the dryer you have to trip the main in the beaker box. this cut any outside power to and from the pole (mainline). then just cut the breakers to the parts of the home not used and to just under the running watts of the generator. taking in to count starting loads. then after they get the power backup. just have to watch when either the street lights come on or a nieghbor runs something. then all yiu do is shut down gen then disconnect it and turn the main back on. common sense but for the nuts that don't disconeect from the mains. thats why its fround apon and someplaces illegal to do. the best way is to have a additonal main breaker on the meter base with a lockout on it.
john
( i have a double throw at the main where the generator gets hooked up at. the plug only supplies power from the generator when you throw the switch which also disconnwcts the main at the same time.)
Quote from: eltalia on September 10, 2017, 07:03:58 AM
"you need me too[sic] come down and hold your hand and explain how it's done heh "
Try as you do to takeover the topic yer gettin' done like a dinner, and that
with my lead arm tied behind my back!
Florida is about to cop it, so I am staying on topic. You want something
else then you have ample opportunity in those "coffee house" threads, if
your up to backing your (2%) corner of the room, like... heh.
(author <sc-bee> dodge on education opportunity, noted)
Not my problem I know my stuff... I earnt it, not leeched it from the
InnerNetz : grins: + : slowclaps:
Bill
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I agree more important things to talk about... and no I am not taking over a topic.... look back you threw out the smart butt comment to acebird and now you point your finger at others... But yes I have no time for your antics... I just hoped by pointing your antics/comments/jabs out to you.... you would stop the BS ... Just look back at the majority of your post. Most all have a underhanded JAB somewhere. ...Enough of lowering my standards of membership...bickering with you... and ranting AT THIS TIME...
To the important thing on the thread,the storm, yes I should be ashamed of my bickering with you on this topic thread. I have been here on Beemaster for YEARS and you regulars know it is not my nature. So my apologies to members, especially those in the path of the storm, and the moderators.
I hope you guys in the path of IRMA are safe and sound and weather well and damage if any is minimal. Looks like we here in SC got lucky this time...schools are closed to open up shelters. God Bless you guys in the path and prayers sent as Irma approaches.
Ditto SC.
hey Jim if your power is not outand your still on>
How you getting to the house in town tommorow?
the same way I'm getting to my shop across the dry creek Wednesday.
THE BACK STROKE!
:angry: :oops: :tongue:
John
News on the wire from Tampa is Irma is proving a fizzer, folks are driving
around in it!
Thank your (L)awd for that near miss.. now comes the aftermath :-/
Bill
Anyone hear from KeylargoBees? How he made out.
Well I have the generator up and running and the phone company has a small generator providing internet. Yea. Phones do not work but that is not a problem. I spent the morning helping neighbors clear trees off roads and we pulled a up truck out of a washed out road. The truck had water up to the bottom of the windows. I spent the rest of the day wiring up generators to 2 of those neighbors houses.
When I came home I found out that my house in Jacksonxille has severe roof damage, the large oaks in my front yard have split and a tree or branch is on my workshop. Not sure how bad the damage is.
My daughters house was un touched.
Here at the farm, lots of water and soggy ground but no known damage.
Jim
Quote from: sawdstmakr on September 11, 2017, 08:17:07 PM
Well I have the generator up and running and the phone company has a small generator providing internet. Yea. Phones do not work but that is not a problem. I spent the morning helping neighbors clear trees off roads and we pulled a up truck out of a washed out road. The truck had water up to the bottom of the windows. I spent the rest of the day wiring up generators to 2 of those neighbors houses.
When I came home I found out that my house in Jacksonxille has severe roof damage, the large oaks in my front yard have split and a tree or branch is on my workshop. Not sure how bad the damage is.
My daughters house was un touched.
Here at the farm, lots of water and soggy ground but no known damage.
Jim
Sorry about the roof.... hang in there Jim...
Jim,
I am pleased that you and yours emerged unharmed. The rest is work, which is unfortunate, but in the big scheme of things could have been far worse.
Well still at work, family is good no power and the hives I moved due to a sketchy tree was well worth it as the tree fell and would have Crushed them, Jim sorry about the roof hope it works out
R
Quote from: jtcmedic on September 11, 2017, 11:57:10 PM
Well still at work, family is good no power and the hives I moved due to a sketchy tree was well worth it as the tree fell and would have Crushed them, Jim sorry about the roof hope it works out
R
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well was out of power,water,phone, internet for 30 hourse. got power back at 830 tonight. wired gen to house to keep wifes equipment running. wired well to niegborhood for two hours so everyone could shower and get water up. they finnally cleared the roads to get in and repaireddown wires. had to rescedual doctors appt to find out if I need another surgury to my arm for thrus. . now to clean up all the down trees in the neighborhood. boy do i have alot of new trees to cut into lumber. ilf thats a bright side. :tongue:
john
Thanks for the support.
I spent this morning trying to get the generator to start. It starts, runs for a few
Minutes and then dies. Took the carb apart, cleaned it sener times but could not get it to run. My neighbor left to take care of his mother in law shortly after we wired up my generator that I loaned him so I went and got it and desired it to connect to my place.
Then I went to Jacksonxille. This area is way worse than the farm. Trees down everywhere, roofs damaged. Tons and tons of debris everywhere. My daughter had a large tree branch fall on the pipes on top ove the well. Pump ran dry, melted pipes and she thought that was the only problem. Her girls pulled the branch off the well and did not see the damage. We worked into the dark fixing all of the problems and had her water back on about 9:30 PM.
I called the insurance company and put in a claim. Becides the roof damage, I have a small hole in my barn roof right at the peak, half a dozen trees severely damaged, at least 4 trees leaning. One large one right behind the house has the dirt around the root on the house side removed like some one used a hose to make holes on the sides of the root. I looked at it several times before I realized the roots were pulled up and down several times by the storm. That tree has to come down.
I am hoping that the insurance company will cover removing all of these trees.
Jim
Seems bittersweet there, Jim. It sounds like you came out on ""the good side of bad"", if there is such a thing.
Hope you get it covered and done shortly.
Jim. I had a mechanic, a good one, tell me to use AVGAS which has no ethanol. It will not dissolve the soft parts of a carburetor like ethanol. Also avgas is made to stay fresh for longer periods. So that is what I use in my Generator. After it has been running awhile I use regular gas but always leave AVGAS in tank or drain all of the gas and run it until it runs out and quits.
Yeah things that don't run for long periods of time are susceptible for plugging up. I have had to clean the tank and replace hoses to keep the carb from plugging. If the carb has screw jets it is easier because you can take them out and clean orfices. Fixed jets there is not much you can do except try to blow them out with compressed air.
One thing you can try is fill up a pump oiler can with gas and when the engine starts to die squirt in gas at the carb venturi to keep it running. Sometimes if you can keep it running long enough it will clear itself. Good luck.
Many premium gas pumps do not have ethanol in the gas.
In reply to ACE I concur as my Great Grand son says age 8.
Jim, I started what I thought was going to be a long process to get my generator back up and running. I replace the inline fuel filter and it cranked on the second pull. It still has a gas leak. I can fix it but I'll have to take off a few things to get to it. Good to know you're okay. I was in Ft Payne in north Alabama this past weekend. The hotels were packed out with Florida tags. You could look at folks and tell if they were from Florida. sad.
jim your oil sensor is triggering. disconnect the wire to the sensor or change the oil if old. that is whats shutting it down after a min or two. oil gets hot and the sensor triggers. very very common problem.
john
I have a generator for the PTO of my tractor. I highly recommend it. I use the tractor all the time so I don't have crap clogging up from it sitting for long periods of time.
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Jim - Glad you and your family are OK. Sorry to her about the property. Hope things are working out better and you've got the generator up and going. Wishing you some good luck from here on out!
My sister and her family weathered it out in North Port [gulf coast between Tampa and Naples] They were lucky and didn't even lose power. Scary.
For big as it was Irma did much less damage than expected. Thank God Jose danced around the Atlantic and didn't follow Irma or it would have been a different story.
Quote from: divemaster1963 on September 13, 2017, 02:03:31 PM
jim your oil sensor is triggering. disconnect the wire to the sensor or change the oil if old. that is whats shutting it down after a min or two. oil gets hot and the sensor triggers. very very common problem.
john
Thanks , I will try it in the morning.
Jim
Quote from: paus on September 13, 2017, 09:12:09 AM
Jim. I had a mechanic, a good one, tell me to use AVGAS which has no ethanol. It will not dissolve the soft parts of a carburetor like ethanol. Also avgas is made to stay fresh for longer periods. So that is what I use in my Generator. After it has been running awhile I use regular gas but always leave AVGAS in tank or drain all of the gas and run it until it runs out and quits.
Thanks, I run only real gas and empty the tank and then run the engine dry for storage. Most all of the engines that I do that to fire up on the first pull.
Jim
Quote from: Acebird on September 13, 2017, 09:47:33 AM
Yeah things that don't run for long periods of time are susceptible for plugging up. I have had to clean the tank and replace hoses to keep the carb from plugging. If the carb has screw jets it is easier because you can take them out and clean orfices. Fixed jets there is not much you can do except try to blow them out with compressed air.
One thing you can try is fill up a pump oiler can with gas and when the engine starts to die squirt in gas at the carb venturi to keep it running. Sometimes if you can keep it running long enough it will clear itself. Good luck.
Many premium gas pumps do not have ethanol in the gas.
Thanks, I added the gas to the intake and it would briefly start.
I took the carb apart, there are no adjustment screws except the idle screw. I did clean the jet that bolts to the bottom of the carburetor and I cleaned the plastic jet, as much as possible, that is in the middle of the orifice. Thay are the only jets that I could find.
Jim
Quote from: GSF on September 13, 2017, 12:31:04 PM
Jim, I started what I thought was going to be a long process to get my generator back up and running. I replace the inline fuel filter and it cranked on the second pull. It still has a gas leak. I can fix it but I'll have to take off a few things to get to it. Good to know you're okay. I was in Ft Payne in north Alabama this past weekend. The hotels were packed out with Florida tags. You could look at folks and tell if they were from Florida. sad.
Thanks. Don't procrastinate on getting it fixed. Nothing worse than your family sitting in the dark, hot and sweaty waiting for you to get it fixed. :sad:
Jim
Quote from: Eric Bosworth on September 13, 2017, 02:11:33 PM
I have a generator for the PTO of my tractor. I highly recommend it. I use the tractor all the time so I don't have crap clogging up from it sitting for long periods of time.
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How many KW is it?
One problem is that the tractor would make a mess of the yard. It was real soft from the nor'easter that hit before the storm hit, so was sinking in with sneakers on while putting up window coverings.
If I see one I may get one for hedge trimmers for clearing the bushes on the sides of my fire breaks.
Jim
Quote from: Rurification on September 13, 2017, 02:52:10 PM
Jim - Glad you and your family are OK. Sorry to her about the property. Hope things are working out better and you've got the generator up and going. Wishing you some good luck from here on out!
My sister and her family weathered it out in North Port [gulf coast between Tampa and Naples] They were lucky and didn't even lose power. Scary.
Thanks Robin. I found that most of my trees have damage or are leaning. I called my agent and asked her what they cover for trees. She said they are not in the tre damage business. They only cover trees on my buildings or on the fence.
I remember my neighbor 8 pine trees being hit by lightning and his insurance paid for the removal. None of them were on a fence or near the house.
We are still on generator power.
Jim
Quote from: Acebird on September 13, 2017, 09:15:57 PM
For big as it was Irma did much less damage than expected. Thank God Jose danced around the Atlantic and didn't follow Irma or it would have been a different story.
With as much debris that is stacked up everywhere it would be even worse. Most streets are lined with logs and branches.
A meteorological friend of my wife's that she follows, early on was predicting/blogging that Irma would go up the west coast, I now saying that Jose will hit the mid states of the east coast. Look out SC.
Jim
Quote from: sawdstmakr on September 13, 2017, 09:50:31 PM
She said they are not in the tre damage business. They only cover trees on my buildings or on the fence.
That is what I hate about insurance companies. It is not until you need it that you find out whether you have any coverage. I will bet some of them don't even cover your house if it was damaged by a hurricane. They have all kinds of excuses.
Quote from: divemaster1963 on September 13, 2017, 02:03:31 PM
jim your oil sensor is triggering. disconnect the wire to the sensor or change the oil if old. that is whats shutting it down after a min or two. oil gets hot and the sensor triggers. very very common problem.
john
Thanks , I will try it in the morning.
Jim,
John,
Yesterday I added 2 ounces of Sea Foam to the oil on that generator. I had it already so I thought I would try it. It says to use one ounce per quart of oil but I wanted to clean out the gunk in the sensor. I then shook the entire generator and pulled the starting cord to mix it in some more. It fired right up. I let it run for a while to prove it would run and stopped it and restarted it again. Then I drained the oil and replaced it with Mobile One synthetic oil. I drained all of the gas out of the tank and ran it until it ran dry to prep it for storage. Then I did the same thing with my other generator including changing the oil.
Thanks for the help.
Jim
Quote from: Acebird on September 14, 2017, 09:06:34 AM
Quote from: sawdstmakr on September 13, 2017, 09:50:31 PM
She said they are not in the tre damage business. They only cover trees on my buildings or on the fence.
That is what I hate about insurance companies. It is not until you need it that you find out whether you have any coverage. I will bet some of them don't even cover your house if it was damaged by a hurricane. They have all kinds of excuses.
Coming from a non-hurricane country, that's one of the questions I wanted to ask - "Do insurance companies cover hurricane damage ?" - but I thought the timing might be insensitive. There was a really good film: "The Man who Sued God" based on that exact story-line - that Acts of God are 'wriggle-out of paying' exclusion clauses in insurance contracts.
I've used a cup-full of acetone in a gallon of petrol (gasoline) a few times to dissolve the varnish build-up in carburettors, but it's important that the mix is run through and not allowed to sit in the carb for any length of time, as it can cause swelling of O rings, which can then pop out of position.
Good luck with the clear-up Jim - at least you won't be short of firewood for a while <wry smile>.
'best,
LJ
Coming from a non-hurricane country, that's one of the questions I wanted to ask - "Do insurance companies cover hurricane damage ?" - but I thought the timing might be insensitive. There was a really good film: "The Man who Sued God" based on that exact story-line - that Acts of God are 'wriggle-out of paying' exclusion clauses in insurance contracts.
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Insurance companies are tricky. Here in Florida we have "basic" insurance that covers fire, etc. Then we pay extra for "hurricane" coverage, and more for "flood" insurance. When we lost so much in Ivan (like many others), insurance companies were arguing with home owners about water damage - was it from rain vs rising water....very frustrating. It just seems like they try to 'wriggle-out of paying' whenever possible. :angry:
Quote from: little john on September 17, 2017, 04:31:00 AM
Quote from: Acebird on September 14, 2017, 09:06:34 AM
Quote from: sawdstmakr on September 13, 2017, 09:50:31 PM
She said they are not in the tre damage business. They only cover trees on my buildings or on the fence.
That is what I hate about insurance companies. It is not until you need it that you find out whether you have any coverage. I will bet some of them don't even cover your house if it was damaged by a hurricane. They have all kinds of excuses.
Coming from a non-hurricane country, that's one of the questions I wanted to ask - "Do insurance companies cover hurricane damage ?" - but I thought the timing might be insensitive. There was a really good film: "The Man who Sued God" based on that exact story-line - that Acts of God are 'wriggle-out of paying' exclusion clauses in insurance contracts.
I've used a cup-full of acetone in a gallon of petrol (gasoline) a few times to dissolve the varnish build-up in carburettors, but it's important that the mix is run through and not allowed to sit in the carb for any length of time, as it can cause swelling of O rings, which can then pop out of position.
Good luck with the clear-up Jim - at least you won't be short of firewood for a while <wry smile>.
'best,
LJ
I had the insulation adjusters here yesterday. They seemed very easy to work with. Marked every thing that was damaged and said that they would be back in their office, in Alabama, in a couple of days and they will let me know what the total coverage is.
I will let you know.
Jim
Quote from: tycrnp on September 20, 2017, 12:25:48 AM
It just seems like they try to 'wriggle-out of paying' whenever possible. :angry:
Word of advice. Those that hire a private adjuster make out better than those that let the insurance adjuster tell you what you will get. That includes what you have to pay the private adjuster.
Quote from: Acebird on September 20, 2017, 08:45:51 AM
Word of advice. Those that hire a private adjuster make out better than those that let the insurance adjuster tell you what you will get. That includes what you have to pay the private adjuster.
I didn't realize this was an option. Hopefully I wont ever need another adjuster. :wink: Thanks!